Strike & GE

2chorizon · Post by **2chorizon** » 30 Oct 2019, 22:05

POSTMAN wrote:

Well i hope your right and thats quite correct about balloting before GE was announced.

But.....Knowing trade unions (over 10yrs as a shop steward)
They have a v strong wish for the return of nationalisation of industries etc and this can only be accomplished with a Labour government in power.
The eyes will be on the bigger prize of a corrbyn / Labour GE victory now and the stike will likely be postponed in order to help achieve this.

Sorry but that is how it works.

(but i hope im wrong)

Post by **aiden01** » 30 Oct 2019, 23:12

2chorizon wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:
Well i hope your right and thats quite correct about balloting before GE was announced.

But.....Knowing trade unions (over 10yrs as a shop steward)
They have a v strong wish for the return of nationalisation of industries etc and this can only be accomplished with a Labour government in power.
The eyes will be on the bigger prize of a corrbyn / Labour GE victory now and the stike will likely be postponed in order to help achieve this.

Sorry but that is how it works.

(but i hope im wrong)

Well if strike is postponend cwu can go f**k sorry or jobs are more important

wandle · Post by **wandle** » 31 Oct 2019, 08:57

To coin a Royal Mail phrase, the CWU should - at pace - set some strike dates, for a full week around Black Friday.
If Rico doesn’t have any meaningful negotiations before then, the blame for the strike will be at his door, not ours

Post by **rogersh** » 31 Oct 2019, 10:39

Terry Pullinger has confirmed the senior reps will meet on 13th November & then a meeting of the executive after that.
Assuming the executive meet in that same week & a decision in favour of strike action is made then 2 weeks notice would be 29th November.
(Black Friday).

wandle · Post by **wandle** » 31 Oct 2019, 11:29

The law requires a minimum of 7 days notice, of course. But assuming RM are just stalling, the executive need to move swiftly in setting strike date(s), I feel. The ‘decision in favour of strike action’ has already been made. Convincingly. By the membership.

Post by **rogersh** » 01 Nov 2019, 12:08

wandle wrote:The law requires a minimum of 7 days notice, of course. But assuming RM are just stalling, the executive need to move swiftly in setting strike date(s), I feel. The ‘decision in favour of strike action’ has already been made. Convincingly. By the membership.

Mark Baulch has confirmed the law has changed to 2 weeks notice.

Martin Walsh · Post by **Martin Walsh** » 01 Nov 2019, 13:51

As a postal executive member we will be meeting on the 13th November and will be looking to announce strike action.

The law requires 2 weeks notice. There is no law which stops a strike during the general election period.

2chorizon · Post by **2chorizon** » 01 Nov 2019, 14:41

Martin Walsh wrote:As a postal executive member we will be meeting on the 13th November and will be looking to announce strike action.

The law requires 2 weeks notice. There is no law which stops a strike during the general election period.

We must be very careful with the 14 day notice period for strike.
It absolutley must be enacted on the 13/14th of Nov so the strike begin around 28 / 29th nov (black friday)

Any delay to that critical element will likely put a any strike action beyond the 12th dec general election

& by 12-15dec the xmas post will be all but done n dusted
Loosing all our bargaining power.
So........

All that remains to be seen is if there is any "delay"

This is time critical and there can be no delaying whatsoever in order to allow GE to take place.

work · Post by **work** » 02 Nov 2019, 00:14

2chorizon wrote:
Martin Walsh wrote:As a postal executive member we will be meeting on the 13th November and will be looking to announce strike action.

The law requires 2 weeks notice. There is no law which stops a strike during the general election period.
We must be very careful with the 14 day notice period for strike.
It absolutley must be enacted on the 13/14th of Nov so the strike begin around 28 / 29th nov (black friday)

Any delay to that critical element will likely put a any strike action beyond the 12th dec general election

& by 12-15dec the xmas post will be all but done n dusted
Loosing all our bargaining power.
So........

All that remains to be seen is if there is any "delay"

This is time critical and there can be no delaying whatsoever in order to allow GE to take place.

GO ON THE CWU! YOU HAVE THE STRONGEST SUPPORT AND SOLIDARITY IMAGINABLE...NOW TO RAMP-UP THE FIGHT OF OUR LIVES

This is and only ever was about capitalist elite shitting on the workers via bullying and harassment, negating our voice at the table and reneged on the terms and conditions in law. The rich are going to eat some humble pie this winter and we can serve it up cold. NICE ONE! TO ALL 97.1% OF US...Let's go to war and be a part of the bigger picture. 110,000 employees is a decent army of dissenters...THE GLOVES ARE OFF I TELLS YA...We must push back with some force or will forever regret our current position of SOLIDARITY if foresaken now. these fatcats have a five year plan rolling before 'em already...WE HAVE MOBILISED THE CWU TO ACT. They are pushing on. Let us not be fleeced by the wolf at the door this winter...make no mistake he will devour every last working right and law to get his greedy way...unless we can put his tail 'tween his legs NOW.......This is time critical and there can be no delaying whatsoever

2chorizon · Post by **2chorizon** » 02 Nov 2019, 05:28

I'm ready 4 Rico

Post by **baldrick** » 02 Nov 2019, 07:23

2chorizon wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:
Well i hope your right and thats quite correct about balloting before GE was announced.

But.....Knowing trade unions (over 10yrs as a shop steward)
They have a v strong wish for the return of nationalisation of industries etc and this can only be accomplished with a Labour government in power.
The eyes will be on the bigger prize of a corrbyn / Labour GE victory now and the stike will likely be postponed in order to help achieve this.

Sorry but that is how it works.

(but i hope im wrong)

I think you are wrong. Strikes won't affect Labour's campaign. With a membership of around half a million, election material will be delivered by local members, not by post. Postal votes can be returned in person to polling stations on 12 December.
Of course the Tory press will use strikes to attack Labour, but they will use anything anyway.

spursfan01 · Post by **spursfan01** » 03 Nov 2019, 21:30

We Really need to send RM a message of intent, but it breaks me to say we need a Labour Government. The tory press machine will lay into Labour party in a big way ie Marxist Labour supporting a union trying to bring the country down do you want this return to the 70s. Thats how the tories will play it !!

work · Post by **work** » 03 Nov 2019, 22:04

spursfan01 wrote:We Really need to send RM a message of intent, but it breaks me to say we need a Labour Government. The tory press machine will lay into Labour party in a big way ie Marxist Labour supporting a union trying to bring the country down do you want this return to the 70s. Thats how the tories will play it !!

Aye but only the weak minded party faithful will vote for them...this time around the youth are mobilising in droves...and they have the future global village perspective not the home counties mentality...stand by for another kick up the arse for politics (last referendum delivered Brexit shake-up), these kids have come of age and their vegan anti capitalist green credentials are all about the future planet and very anti boris/trump/establishment...2019 Election may just be the start of people power...the demographic time bomb will need to be addressed: why should the baby boomers get the free education/nhs/pensions/property/tv licences/prescriptions that the youth don't? they pay the same tax/NI but get shite wages until 25! SHOCKING TREATMENT OF THE NEXT GENERATION. Seize the day and make the rich pay...and that includes the elderly being means tested for tv licences/social care/bus passes/winter fuel payments/etc. {50% of over 65's vote Tory - they've never had it so good; the greedy sods}

2chorizon · Post by **2chorizon** » 04 Nov 2019, 00:21

work wrote:
spursfan01 wrote:We Really need to send RM a message of intent, but it breaks me to say we need a Labour Government. The tory press machine will lay into Labour party in a big way ie Marxist Labour supporting a union trying to bring the country down do you want this return to the 70s. Thats how the tories will play it !!
Aye but only the weak minded party faithful will vote for them...this time around the youth are mobilising in droves...and they have the future global village perspective not the home counties mentality...stand by for another kick up the arse for politics (last referendum delivered Brexit shake-up), these kids have come of age and their vegan anti capitalist green credentials are all about the future planet and very anti boris/trump/establishment...2019 Election may just be the start of people power...the demographic time bomb will need to be addressed: why should the baby boomers get the free education/nhs/pensions/property/tv licences/prescriptions that the youth don't? they pay the same tax/NI but get shite wages until 25! SHOCKING TREATMENT OF THE NEXT GENERATION. Seize the day and make the rich pay...and that includes the elderly being means tested for tv licences/social care/bus passes/winter fuel payments/etc. {50% of over 65's vote Tory - they've never had it so good; the greedy sods}