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LTB 370/21 - Average Pay on Annual Leave - Joint Statement for Back Pay Arrangements (Christmas Peak Period) Covering SA Rate Payments for Pre-Scheduled Overtime & part-time to full-time Uplift

All the LTB'S and latest discussion threads on getting extra holiday payments when going on holiday for those who work above their contracted hours.For part-timers 'and' full-timers.
IloveMYredTROLLEY!
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Re: LTB 370/21 - Average Pay on Annual Leave - Joint Statement for Back Pay Arrangements (Christmas Peak Period) Covering SA Rate Payments for Pre-Scheduled Overtime & part-time to full-time Uplift

Post by IloveMYredTROLLEY! »

worktotime wrote:
26 Sep 2021, 10:17
right i have just worked out how this agreement has worked for the first 6 month and just show what a s**t deal this is and how the company will benefit out of this , my overtime over this , April 19 hrs - 10 mins
May 10 hrs - 00 mins
June 4 hrs - 10 mins ***
July 11 hrs - 15 mins
Aug 12 hrs - 37 mins
Sept 21 hrs - 10 mins
____________________
Total 74 hrs - 22 mins

so looking at this and because i didnt hit the 8 hrs target in June i wont be entitled to any average holiday pay :crazy: , so i would like to hear what Mr walsh thinks of this ? and you think this was a great deal for your paying members.
Shocking "deal of the millenium" struck by Terry & Co. without a vote by all CWU members. :thumbdown

If you know you won't qualify for extra pay in holidays, I wouldn't do any overtime unless managers agree at least double-pay overtime, to get the same effective overtime rate as those who meet this ridiculous target of 8+ hours every month per six month block.
worktotime
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Re: LTB 370/21 - Average Pay on Annual Leave - Joint Statement for Back Pay Arrangements (Christmas Peak Period) Covering SA Rate Payments for Pre-Scheduled Overtime & part-time to full-time Uplift

Post by worktotime »

IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:
26 Sep 2021, 14:52
worktotime wrote:
26 Sep 2021, 10:17
right i have just worked out how this agreement has worked for the first 6 month and just show what a s**t deal this is and how the company will benefit out of this , my overtime over this , April 19 hrs - 10 mins
May 10 hrs - 00 mins
June 4 hrs - 10 mins ***
July 11 hrs - 15 mins
Aug 12 hrs - 37 mins
Sept 21 hrs - 10 mins
____________________
Total 74 hrs - 22 mins

so looking at this and because i didnt hit the 8 hrs target in June i wont be entitled to any average holiday pay :crazy: , so i would like to hear what Mr walsh thinks of this ? and you think this was a great deal for your paying members.
Shocking "deal of the millenium" struck by Terry & Co. without a vote by all CWU members. :thumbdown

If you know you won't qualify for extra pay in holidays, I wouldn't do any overtime unless managers agree at least double-pay overtime, to get the same effective overtime rate as those who meet this ridiculous target of 8+ hours every month per six month block.
i wont be as they will just run you into the ground to clear xmas and make the company look great and then maybe March chop the o/t so you would not get any payment , so bollocks to the o/t and bollocks to christmas , finish time and home me thinks. :thumbup
worktotime
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Re: LTB 370/21 - Average Pay on Annual Leave - Joint Statement for Back Pay Arrangements (Christmas Peak Period) Covering SA Rate Payments for Pre-Scheduled Overtime & part-time to full-time Uplift

Post by worktotime »

that doesnt surprise me that the silent union officials has f**k all to say on this :evil/mad , just like everything else they have gone silent on , the joke of revisions come to mind . :evil/mad,
TheTrolleyMan
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Re: LTB 370/21 - Average Pay on Annual Leave - Joint Statement for Back Pay Arrangements (Christmas Peak Period) Covering SA Rate Payments for Pre-Scheduled Overtime & part-time to full-time Uplift

Post by TheTrolleyMan »

Who needs overtime back pay ? I sacked of my Union fees so that's me £150+ a year better off ! Fancy paying Union subs only to have Terry Bullshitter turn you over
worktotime
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Re: LTB 370/21 - Average Pay on Annual Leave - Joint Statement for Back Pay Arrangements (Christmas Peak Period) Covering SA Rate Payments for Pre-Scheduled Overtime & part-time to full-time Uplift

Post by worktotime »

TheTrolleyMan wrote:
27 Sep 2021, 17:17
Who needs overtime back pay ? I sacked of my Union fees so that's me £150+ a year better off ! Fancy paying Union subs only to have Terry Bullshitter turn you over
well said :Applause :Applause , so its not just me then ?
TheTrolleyMan
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Post by TheTrolleyMan »

Aye mate there's loads leaving The CWU at our place , CWU leadership are weak and out of touch with the shop floor
worktotime
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Re: LTB 370/21 - Average Pay on Annual Leave - Joint Statement for Back Pay Arrangements (Christmas Peak Period) Covering SA Rate Payments for Pre-Scheduled Overtime & part-time to full-time Uplift

Post by worktotime »

TheTrolleyMan wrote:
27 Sep 2021, 17:25
Aye mate there's loads leaving The CWU at our place , CWU leadership are weak and out of touch with the shop floor
oh dear , :thumbup
kevbo
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Re: LTB 370/21 - Average Pay on Annual Leave - Joint Statement for Back Pay Arrangements (Christmas Peak Period) Covering SA Rate Payments for Pre-Scheduled Overtime & part-time to full-time Uplift

Post by kevbo »

worktotime wrote:
26 Sep 2021, 13:43
HTPostman wrote:
26 Sep 2021, 13:33
worktotime wrote:
26 Sep 2021, 10:17
right i have just worked out how this agreement has worked for the first 6 month and just show what a s**t deal this is and how the company will benefit out of this , my overtime over this , April 19 hrs - 10 mins
May 10 hrs - 00 mins
June 4 hrs - 10 mins ***
July 11 hrs - 15 mins
Aug 12 hrs - 37 mins
Sept 21 hrs - 10 mins
____________________
Total 74 hrs - 22 mins

so looking at this and because i didnt hit the 8 hrs target in June i wont be entitled to any average holiday pay :crazy: , so i would like to hear what Mr walsh thinks of this ? and you think this was a great deal for your paying members.
It’s very poor isn’t it? For me personally now starting on a 4 day week there’s nothing for me to gain from helping out. Whereas before I might’ve helped out with an hour at the end or come in early to prep another round, it’s pointless now because as soon as I have a week or 2 off it’s going to be very difficult to catch up in the remaining 2 weeks of that month.

So it comes down to, am I happy with £8 ish after tax to do an extra hour, knowing I won’t qualify for holiday pay? The answer is no, and I know quite a few in my situation who are now just working to time.
its disgusting :thumbdown , and its even worse that the cwu have basically brushed all there members claims under the carpet :no no including mine , and yes you can continue with your e/t BUT you have to pay for someone to deal with it and you have to resubmit all your claims again , and im not wasting any time or money on it , anyway i will save £190 a year from my cwu subs :thumbup
Why do you have to pay someone. Just go to tribunal.
ICEMAN81
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Re: LTB 370/21 - Average Pay on Annual Leave - Joint Statement for Back Pay Arrangements (Christmas Peak Period) Covering SA Rate Payments for Pre-Scheduled Overtime & part-time to full-time Uplift

Post by ICEMAN81 »

I meet the requirements, but do I need to have put in a claim beforehand to get the 2 years backdated?
worktotime
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Re: LTB 370/21 - Average Pay on Annual Leave - Joint Statement for Back Pay Arrangements (Christmas Peak Period) Covering SA Rate Payments for Pre-Scheduled Overtime & part-time to full-time Uplift

Post by worktotime »

ICEMAN81 wrote:
28 Sep 2021, 07:59
I meet the requirements, but do I need to have put in a claim beforehand to get the 2 years backdated?
no.