lost parcels

[TrueBlueTerrier]

I know my office hasn't been allowed out today so all the people in my area won't be getting their parcels today (again), if we go out and something happens (we fall and injure ourselves or we crash the van) then we will be held responsible and then sacked over it so we need to be aware that that's our reward for 'using out commonsense'.

If you left your bin lid up then you deserve not to have you bin emptied, those have been the rules for a few years now so it does seem that you're the person who just does whatever you like and expect everyone to jump to you.

So this is the real reason then why parcels are not getting delivered. Postal staff have bad attitude, don't give a damn about the customers and are frightened of a little bit of snow. If you weren't out today, then I hope to hell you weren't paid. You people are a joke, it's christmas, the busiest time of year, people are waiting for parcels, people have paid for a service that you are unwilling to provide.

Hello did you miss my post when I advised you that only Managers can cancel all deliveries as happened in Northern Ireland (that's where DGP1 is from) - some of their offices id not even get any mail to even deliver it.

We can refuse to deliver to individual addresses if we think its unsafe but only management can suspend all deliveries.

[DGP1]

I know my office hasn't been allowed out today so all the people in my area won't be getting their parcels today (again), if we go out and something happens (we fall and injure ourselves or we crash the van) then we will be held responsible and then sacked over it so we need to be aware that that's our reward for 'using out commonsense'.

If you left your bin lid up then you deserve not to have you bin emptied, those have been the rules for a few years now so it does seem that you're the person who just does whatever you like and expect everyone to jump to you.

So this is the real reason then why parcels are not getting delivered. Postal staff have bad attitude, don't give a damn about the customers and are frightened of a little bit of snow. If you weren't out today, then I hope to hell you weren't paid. You people are a joke, it's christmas, the busiest time of year, people are waiting for parcels, people have paid for a service that you are unwilling to provide.

Hello did you miss my post when I advised you that only Managers can cancel all deliveries as happened in Northern Ireland (that's where DGP1 is from) - some of their offices id not even get any mail to even deliver it.

We can refuse to deliver to individual addresses if we think its unsafe but only management can suspend all deliveries.

Teebs, I think we're in for a night of rants they she really does think it's our fault and hasn't bothered even reading that we're not allowed out, still I'm sure when she does get her package then she'll give her postie a bit tip

[pickaname]

I know my office hasn't been allowed out today so all the people in my area won't be getting their parcels today (again), if we go out and something happens (we fall and injure ourselves or we crash the van) then we will be held responsible and then sacked over it so we need to be aware that that's our reward for 'using out commonsense'.

If you left your bin lid up then you deserve not to have you bin emptied, those have been the rules for a few years now so it does seem that you're the person who just does whatever you like and expect everyone to jump to you.

So this is the real reason then why parcels are not getting delivered. Postal staff have bad attitude, don't give a damn about the customers and are frightened of a little bit of snow. If you weren't out today, then I hope to hell you weren't paid. You people are a joke, it's christmas, the busiest time of year, people are waiting for parcels, people have paid for a service that you are unwilling to provide.

So when you slip up and break an arm on the way to pick up your parcel because you were out is that Royal Mails fault too?

Im not risking my safety on delivery for anyone.

Today was insane. I did one bag and had to call it a day. Funnily enough I didnt see anyone - not one person - out and about when i was slipping and sliding all over the place. Im lucky not to have injured myself.

If all posties injured themselves delivering your pap in insane weather conditions who would deliver it then?
Next time drive to the town centre and buy it from a shop. Oh yea...its too dangerous to drive cause the weather is bad...

[Bazman]

Whats funny is that we have posties out in sub zero temperatures for 5 hours (or more!) at a time wading through knee high snow and balancing on ice and we have a terrible attitude :|

Royal Mail is the only company that has actually been making an effort to deliver throughout the terrible conditions the whole of the UK's been suffering. One things for sure you won't see any of the private companies out delivering because they don't give a stuff about your christmas. Despite the weather, alot of the posties I work with have been busting their guts to make sure that everything our office receives gets delivered, more than a few of them having given one of the reasons for doing it as "because its Christmas time."

Yeah, we suck, its the posties fault etc.

[Teletubby32]

So when you slip up and break an arm on the way to pick up your parcel because you were out is that Royal Mails fault too?

Im not risking my safety on delivery for anyone.

Today was insane. I did one bag and had to call it a day. Funnily enough I didnt see anyone - not one person - out and about when i was slipping and sliding all over the place. Im lucky not to have injured myself.

If all posties injured themselves delivering your pap in insane weather conditions who would deliver it then?
Next time drive to the town centre and buy it from a shop. Oh yea...its too dangerous to drive cause the weather is bad...

It's a hazard of the job, a postie knows when applying for the job that he/she will have to be out in all conditions, if he/she is not willing to go out in wintry conditions then the job isn't for them.

As for shopping in town, I don't have any problem with that but it isn't always possible to get what you want locally, and often it's twice the price, but if everyone shopped locally then there'd be no need for so many postal staff. If Royal Mail are unwilling or unable to deliver in wintry conditions then they shouldn't accept parcels during such times, you're happy to take the money though on the understanding you'll provide the service paid for so you should provide it regardless of the conditions.

only management can suspend all deliveries

This is in conflict with pickaname who says they delivered one bag today and called it a day, suggesting the decision was taken by himself.

[POSTMAN]

Tele,i mean come on love

[Teletubby32]

Royal Mail is the only company that has actually been making an effort to deliver throughout the terrible conditions

Not true, I had a delivery today from Home Delivery Network with something I'd ordered from very.co.uk and I also had some guy in a car deliver me something ordered from Premierman, but surprise surprise there was no post today.

[fishtank]

a trip to pick up their parcel from the local depot....is that such a difficult task?

Not difficult, no, but a great inconvenience and something that is so unnecessary if the posties used some commonsense.

A great inconvenience....
No,a great inconvenience would be if your postman left your parcel in an insecure place,it was stolen and you had to replace it and fight with Royal Mail for compensation.That would be a great inconvenience...for you.
It would however be more than an inconvenience for your Postman who would be lucky to hang onto his job.
To consider a trip to your local Delivery Office a great inconvenience for an able bodied,fit healthy adult who would most likely use their car is quite frankly....laughable.
Sometimes i go for a walk....just for the hell of it.
I know.....it's shocking.

[pickaname]

So when you slip up and break an arm on the way to pick up your parcel because you were out is that Royal Mails fault too?

Im not risking my safety on delivery for anyone.

Today was insane. I did one bag and had to call it a day. Funnily enough I didnt see anyone - not one person - out and about when i was slipping and sliding all over the place. Im lucky not to have injured myself.

If all posties injured themselves delivering your pap in insane weather conditions who would deliver it then?
Next time drive to the town centre and buy it from a shop. Oh yea...its too dangerous to drive cause the weather is bad...

It's a hazard of the job, a postie knows when applying for the job that he/she will have to be out in all conditions, if he/she is not willing to go out in wintry conditions then the job isn't for them.

As for shopping in town, I don't have any problem with that but it isn't always possible to get what you want locally, and often it's twice the price, but if everyone shopped locally then there'd be no need for so many postal staff. If Royal Mail are unwilling or unable to deliver in wintry conditions then they shouldn't accept parcels during such times, you're happy to take the money though on the understanding you'll provide the service paid for so you should provide it regardless of the conditions.

only management can suspend all deliveries

This is in conflict with pickaname who says they delivered one bag today and called it a day, suggesting the decision was taken by himself.

No, the decision was taken by my manager.
It is Royal mails policy that deliver staff should not attempt to deliver items if they feel their personal safety is at risk. My personal safety was at risk so i phoned my manager who said suspend delivery. Do you really think i just went home cause i couldnt be arsed? If that was the case why did I even bother to go out at 7am in a -5 blizzard with no snow chains or waterproofs?
The bad weather was predicted in advance so it was pretty dumb to have ordered so much.
These customers are the very worst. Those that think they know how the job is done and how best to do the job.
I tell you now lady - you wouldnt even last 5 mins carrying a 16kg bag on a summers day let alone a -5 blizzard.

[Bazman]

Royal Mail is the only company that has actually been making an effort to deliver throughout the terrible conditions

Not true, I had a delivery today from Home Delivery Network with something I'd ordered from very.co.uk and I also had some guy in a car deliver me something ordered from Premierman, but surprise surprise there was no post today.

This is the same HDNL that stopped going out during the first week of the bad weather (hint: RM didn't) and the same company that is now pleading with online companies to stop taking orders (hint: RM isn't pleading with companies to stop taking orders)

Also, the guy in the car, most likely a courier who gets paid per item, your damn right he's going to be out delivering, otherwise he won't get any money whatsoever, also guaranteed he wasn't out during the first 2 weeks of the bad weather because he would have gotten stuck.

One of my customers from the round I used to do works in this fashion, bumped into him one day during the thaw and he said he hadn't been out for a week and half due to it.

What I don't think you understand is that the problem isn't that the vast majority of the RM delivery workforce is not willing to work, the problem is that they are simply not ABLE to work during some of the worst conditions that have been seen in this country since 1947. Honestly, if you want to do a practical test of what conditions that your postie is working in, load up a 10kg rucksack and go for a walk, preferably one that is 4 and half hours long and do it while the temperatures are sub zero and where there is a foot of snow or so.

Although one thing I will concede is that if the area you live in is affected by a revision then your problems are only exacerbated by the weather :P

[feduppostie]

While I have lots of sympathy for customers that haven't yet received their goods due to the weather ( I am one of those as well BTW) I cannot sit back and take the some of the comments I have seen here directed at posties

I was actually on annual leave and got called in to help due to the weather at the start of the month and now I haven't had a day off since Nov 30th and I won't get one till dec 25th

you may say well this is your job you signed up for it and yes I did but at the moment I am working 7 days a week in bloody awful conditions

I was in this morning to help deliver the backlog of parcels that has built up due to the weather - it was minus 11 when I started at 7 and a balmy minus 6 when I finished at 1, it was hard but worth it when you saw how grateful the customers where to get their items ( especially on a Sunday) I wasn't the only one either about 40 off us gave up our sunday to make sure customers got their parcels

we are no different from you, we have kids, we have family, we are waiting for parcels ourselves and we know how frustrating it is especially at this time of year

but most importantly we care - we do not want one single customer to go without stuff they have ordered for xmas so we are working our arses off to make sure you don't have to

so please don't come on here and tell us we are lazy or workshy - it is quite frankly insulting

that being said I sincerely hope your items reach you in time and have a great xmas

[bobblehat1]

I would just like to inform Ms Teletubby, who by the sound of her name probably spends the day sat on her backside at home or in an office, that somebody very close to me is a postman and gets up at 4 o'clock every morning to deliver the mail regardless of the weather - including blazing hot sunshine in the summer, p**sing down rain and wind in the autumn and, just lately, severe frost, ice and snow - and never moans about his lot. Most of his customers are grateful and polite, and actually give him a tip for his efforts. Some, like Ms Teletubby are so bloody rude that, if I were him, I know where I would shove their parcels. Get a life tubby mwah x