Royal Mail customers:We don't want to strike!

[jim1911]

Thanks Postman that was a brilliant and well composed post.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

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[Madness666]

As a customer i AM interested in why you are striking and fortunately i`m fully aware why because my hubby is a postie....a superb explanation postman

[UKMCTC]

Well, I think like most of the public that you already get too much money for the little you do!
I have two close relatives working as posties, and they do finish well before their time, getting paid overtime while sitting at home! really these workers have milked the system for so long they actually beleive they have the right to strike as they are being asked to actually work! NO sorry but the general public will not support this kind of rubbish, get back to work.

[Just Matt]

You say you dont want to strike and that the 'changes' will affect customers.

Have you stopped to think how your strikes are affecting them? I dont think you have.
As, people will go else where and use other services, like I am, and I dont think people will go back to RM after all this, I wont I know that.

Also, why isnt HM The Queen saying anything, as you are working for the ROYAL Mail.
She could quite easily remove her warrant, crest, etc and then were would you be? What would you be called.

I think HM should get involved and put a stop to this, and those that work for RM should be gratefull that they actually have work.

The 30,000 people that are said to be taken on to sort the backlog out, should be taken on, they are not doing any harm. RM workers are scared that these people may do the job without whinging and show them up to be a bunch of whingers.

Bring back Maggie, she wouldnt allow this to happen, this Labour Govenment is too soft and too week.

Do your customers justice and get back to work, when you dont have jobs, becasue your actions have forced others to go else where, dont go blaming anyone other then yourselves.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Well, I think like most of the public that you already get too much money for the little you do!

Ah I see you did not read all the reasons - we are not striking for a wage rise so not sure why you posted this unless you just wanted to have a dig at posties rather than debate why we are striking.

I have two close relatives working as posties, and they do finish well before their time, getting paid overtime while sitting at home! really these workers have milked the system for so long they actually beleive they have the right to strike as they are being asked to actually work! NO sorry but the general public will not support this kind of rubbish, get back to work.

To be frank - I don't believe you. Ghost overtime has gone in my office, in fact when people have worked over their contracted hours I have personally witnessed managers crossing it off. I work my full hours every day - in fact I even self flex if I go over one day I wont claim if I was under by a similar amount earlier in the week.

BTW we do have a right to strike as long as it was a legal, democratic ballot and in the eyes of the scrutineers the reason the strike was not spurious or invalid - we passed all those so in a democratic society we have the right to withdraw out labour (A strike).

[TrueBlueTerrier]

You say you dont want to strike and that the 'changes' will affect customers.

Have you stopped to think how your strikes are affecting them? I dont think you have.
As, people will go else where and use other services, like I am, and I dont think people will go back to RM after all this, I wont I know that.

Yes we have and if you had read the post you would have realised that. OK you don't agree with the strike, that's your right, as is your choice to nut use RM again. However £2.50 for a 1st class letter is a bit steep for anyone.

Also, why isnt HM The Queen saying anything, as you are working for the ROYAL Mail.
She could quite easily remove her warrant, crest, etc and then were would you be? What would you be called.

I think HM should get involved and put a stop to this, and those that work for RM should be gratefull that they actually have work.

RM are not on strike so I don't think she would care much. Its the workers that are on strike and if they removed the warrant I don't think it would affect us that much at all.

The 30,000 people that are said to be taken on to sort the backlog out, should be taken on, they are not doing any harm. RM workers are scared that these people may do the job without whinging and show them up to be a bunch of whingers.

Ah I see you don't agree with the strike so people who disagree with your viewpoint are whingers a weak argument always resorts in the end to name calling.

Bring back Maggie, she wouldnt allow this to happen, this Labour Govenment is too soft and too week.

Why not its a legal constituted strike. Mrs T had loads of strikes when she was in power and she never stopped them, she played hard ball I grant you but she never stopped them from happening.

Do your customers justice and get back to work, when you dont have jobs, becasue your actions have forced others to go else where, dont go blaming anyone other then yourselves.

SO who is going to deliver the mail then, we are. We are striking because of the way we are treated and because RM have broken agreements they had with the Union, are you really saying workers should accept whatever they bosses imposes regardless of personal feelings or commitments. So if your boss said we are going to do such and such and this had an impact on your work, contract, and pay that you thought was a step to far you would not protest.

[Just Matt]

If you strike yourscustomer base ( Inc me) will go elsewhere and royal mail will be finished, you will have to jobs to return to, then who are you going to blame? Since Thatcher the unions have become weaker & weaker to the point where in the recent rounds of redundancies accross the country they have only been conspicuous by their absence. Also Any public service who strikes in the current economic climate really need to look at the length of dole queues before making that decision.

Quote: The general secretary of the CWU, Billy Hayes, said "It has come to this because of the management of Royal Mail's and the government's refusal to engage the workforce on modernising the company."

Why on earth should the staff be "consulted" ? In any firm, the staff get paid to do what they are told. The workplace is NOT a democracy!

Today I have written ( Emailed and faxed) The Communication Workers Union (CWU) Head Office and Mr Hayes, informing him I am going to take legal action against The Communication Workers Union (CWU) for calling a strike with The Royal Mail, which will affect me and many other small businesses.

I will take legal action and THEY as a union will pay - NOT your members and NOT the company - YOU The Communication Workers Union (CWU)

I will also be taking The Communication Workers Union (CWU) to The Small Claims Court for costs occurred in collecting my mail, business and personal from the sorting office, and also any loss of business I occur, because The Communication Workers Union (CWU) have taken the decision to strike.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

I would read this page before you take any expensive legal action http://www.berr.gov.uk/whatwedo/employm ... 7758.html-" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; after all would not want you to give any money to lawyers or solicitors without first fully understanding if you will succeed. My first read through would suggest you have little or no chance.

[Just Matt]

I have already had the advice from my Legal Team that I need and I am within my rights to go ahead with any action I wish to take.

[neilf]

I have already had the advice from my Legal Team that I need and I am within my rights to go ahead with any action I wish to take.

Best of luck with your claim - I sincerely hope you lose, and the judge laughs you out of court with a nice big costs order.

I also take issue with your comment "The 30,000 people that are said to be taken on to sort the backlog out, should be taken on, they are not doing any harm"

There was an article recently (albeit from the Grauniad) where a journalist goes undercover - you can find it here :http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/oct/2 ... tal-strike

No doubt you will find the stories of parcels - potentially yours - being thrown about the office, really heartwarming. I know that really inspired confidence in me as a customer, in a casual workforce.

Anyway, good luck with your legal action....

[Just Matt]

You clearly have no Knowledge of law. The Small Claims Court has a very high rate of sucess, I have used it before In something not that distant from this type of matter.

The 30,000 temp people wont do any harm, as long as they employed properly the CWU can not do anything about it.

Any potentiall goods, that I recieve, or come into contact with that are damaged by RM will also be the subject of legal action.
CWU and all striking posties have met their match with me.

Again:

Quote: The general secretary of the CWU, Billy Hayes, said "It has come to this because of the management of Royal Mail's and the government's refusal to engage the workforce on modernising the company."

Why on earth should the staff be "consulted" ? In any firm, the staff get paid to do what they are told. The workplace is NOT a democracy!

Time to listen up, you'll be joining the growing dole queue's soon. And the only people whom the blame should be directed at is CWU.

[packmule]

I will also be taking The Communication Workers Union (CWU) to The Small Claims Court for costs occurred in collecting my mail, business and personal from the sorting office, and also any loss of business I occur, because The Communication Workers Union (CWU) have taken the decision to strike.

Well aren't you a wonderful employer, or do we call you boss , sir or masser.
I bet your staff, if you have any just love you to bits with your attitude, no doubt you aslo have a high turnover ( of employees any way )

Do your worst and waste money on stupid crusades we're used to it. Rm are past masters

[Yahoorsur]

'Why on earth should the staff be "consulted" ? In any firm, the staff get paid to do what they are told. The workplace is NOT a democracy!'

And for your next post 'how I put children up chimneys' and 'get my dinner you goddamm prole',
you should really read the 2007 agreement,'change by agreement' it states in there.RM signed up for that or do signed agreements not mean anything to you?


Im going to keep an eye on this, but please come back and let us know how the court case is progressing,now I have to go and have a nice cup of cafezinho,and put some Carlinhos Vergueiro on the sound system.bye

[Just Matt]

I dont have a high turnover of employees, my employes are loyal, something a few posties could learn.
I dont treat my customers with this crap as CWU are doing to the RM customers.

Signed agreement are fine, if BOTH sides stick to them, CWU are just out to hold until RM dies. Which It will do. and Frankly no I dont care, the more the posties and CWU do this the more people find another way to get by.

With any luck unions will soon be banned and people will do an honest days work without whinging.

Ill see you, quequing on the street in a few months.. when I walk past the dole office.