Relating to pay.

[Anderson21]

Hello there again, so after back and fourth, I've finally got my start date, 27th June which is a Monday, my contract is 5 days over 7, one day off through the week and I'm assuming a Sunday, does anybody know roughly when I can expect to get my first pay? Also, question for full timers doing 40hrs, what sort of wage could someone expect? After top ups and supplementary this and that.. do you get any extra for doing parcels? Or is it strictly just your hourly rate? Thanks in advance.

[clashcityrocker]

You will get paid on the Friday after you start. 2/7/
Nothing extra for doing parcels - just the hourly rate.
Check your contract you might be expected to work Sunday.

[yellowbelly]

Don't assume (with being a new hire) that your day off will be a Sunday, it depends what the job description
said and what your contract says. A lot of new hires now get Sunday included in their contract as a working day.

F/T hours are now 37hrs (not 40), to work out what to expect from 37hrs:

Pay

We offer an industry-leading pay and benefits package

Age 17 £8.44 + 6 months +12 months
Age 18 £10.85 £11.45 £12.05


You will be paid weekly, with pay increments after six months and twelve months, subject to satisfactory performance. We also offer a weekly supplement of £26.61 (pro-rata) plus overtime and shift allowance if applicable for Delivery work. In addition, we offer a Sunday Premium of an additional £5.83 per hour.

If you're starting on Monday you should get paid that Friday for the work done that week. Overtime gets paid in the week following.
Keep a note of the OT hours you've worked and when - paperwork mysteriously gets lost or managers promise it will be paid this week
but it frequently doesn't!

Edit - Clash beat me to it!

[Anderson21]

Don't assume (with being a new hire) that your day off will be a Sunday, it depends what the job description
said and what your contract says. A lot of new hires now get Sunday included in their contract as a working day.

F/T hours are now 37hrs (not 40), to work out what to expect from 37hrs:

Pay

We offer an industry-leading pay and benefits package

Age 17 £8.44 + 6 months +12 months
Age 18 £10.85 £11.45 £12.05


You will be paid weekly, with pay increments after six months and twelve months, subject to satisfactory performance. We also offer a weekly supplement of £26.61 (pro-rata) plus overtime and shift allowance if applicable for Delivery work. In addition, we offer a Sunday Premium of an additional £5.83 per hour.

If you're starting on Monday you should get paid that Friday for the work done that week. Overtime gets paid in the week following.
Keep a note of the OT hours you've worked and when - paperwork mysteriously gets lost or managers promise it will be paid this week
but it frequently doesn't!

Edit - Clash beat me to it!

Yeah the pay rates are pretty decent by the looks of it, then that £26 ontop.. is pension auto enrollment? And what % is taken / contributed by them? I was going to mention OT next, since we don't have a clocking system, I bet its going to be a headache getting paid what you are owed. So just mark down anything over my contract hours, and hand it to my manager on the last shift of the week? And that 'should get paid the following Friday? I'm remembering other questions now, I apologise for asking lots lol, but is OT only paid a enhanced rate after 37hrs? Or my 27hr contract? Or will I just be on 10.85ph across the board upto the 37? Does that make sense? Haha.. cheers pal, appreciate you replying.

[Anderson21]

You will get paid on the Friday after you start. 2/7/
Nothing extra for doing parcels - just the hourly rate.
Check your contract you might be expected to work Sunday.

Thanks for that mate.. I shall check the contract once I receive it. Cheers

[fb1969]

Assuming you are part time you will be paid the same hourly rate up to a total of 37 hours worked. After 37 hours you don't get the delivery supplement, so it is less per hour. After a further 10 hours, the overtime rate is LESS than the standard hourly rate. Certainly not an "enhanced rate", if anything with Royal Mail the more hours you work the less you get per hour.

[yellowbelly]

Don't assume (with being a new hire) that your day off will be a Sunday, it depends what the job description
said and what your contract says. A lot of new hires now get Sunday included in their contract as a working day.

F/T hours are now 37hrs (not 40), to work out what to expect from 37hrs:

Pay

We offer an industry-leading pay and benefits package

Age 17 £8.44 + 6 months +12 months
Age 18 £10.85 £11.45 £12.05


You will be paid weekly, with pay increments after six months and twelve months, subject to satisfactory performance. We also offer a weekly supplement of £26.61 (pro-rata) plus overtime and shift allowance if applicable for Delivery work. In addition, we offer a Sunday Premium of an additional £5.83 per hour.

If you're starting on Monday you should get paid that Friday for the work done that week. Overtime gets paid in the week following.
Keep a note of the OT hours you've worked and when - paperwork mysteriously gets lost or managers promise it will be paid this week
but it frequently doesn't!

Edit - Clash beat me to it!

Yeah the pay rates are pretty decent by the looks of it, then that £26 ontop.. is pension auto enrollment? And what % is taken / contributed by them? I was going to mention OT next, since we don't have a clocking system, I bet its going to be a headache getting paid what you are owed. So just mark down anything over my contract hours, and hand it to my manager on the last shift of the week? And that 'should get paid the following Friday? I'm remembering other questions now, I apologise for asking lots lol, but is OT only paid a enhanced rate after 37hrs? Or my 27hr contract? Or will I just be on 10.85ph across the board upto the 37? Does that make sense? Haha.. cheers pal, appreciate you replying.

You will be enrolled in the RMDCP pension, there's a decent site which explains most things here: https://rmdcp.uk/help-how-to/how-to
plus the 'Pensions' board on this site (RobertT is the expert!). But there is a new pension (CDC) in the offing but it's
not in place yet.

If they haven't brought in electronic SISO (Sign In/Sign Out) at your office you will record your working hours and
OT daily on stone tablets - joking - good old fashioned paper sheets which, as I said can go missing or remain in the 'pending'
tray when OT is due to be recorded on the pay system, so keep a daily record of what you've worked if you have to chase
it up later.

On your 27hr contract any OT over 27hrs up to 37hrs will be recorded as SSPR OT (can remember what SSPR stands for) but
it includes the delivery supplement and is pensionable. Any OT over 37hrs is NOT RMDCP pensionable and does NOT include the
delivery supplement payment, so in reality the OT rate is worse than your normal pay rate. Personally that is why
I refuse to do any OT over 37hrs.

[fb1969]

SSPR = Single Standard Pay Rate (or similar)

[Anderson21]

Don't assume (with being a new hire) that your day off will be a Sunday, it depends what the job description
said and what your contract says. A lot of new hires now get Sunday included in their contract as a working day.

F/T hours are now 37hrs (not 40), to work out what to expect from 37hrs:

Pay

We offer an industry-leading pay and benefits package

Age 17 £8.44 + 6 months +12 months
Age 18 £10.85 £11.45 £12.05


You will be paid weekly, with pay increments after six months and twelve months, subject to satisfactory performance. We also offer a weekly supplement of £26.61 (pro-rata) plus overtime and shift allowance if applicable for Delivery work. In addition, we offer a Sunday Premium of an additional £5.83 per hour.

If you're starting on Monday you should get paid that Friday for the work done that week. Overtime gets paid in the week following.
Keep a note of the OT hours you've worked and when - paperwork mysteriously gets lost or managers promise it will be paid this week
but it frequently doesn't!

Edit - Clash beat me to it!

Yeah the pay rates are pretty decent by the looks of it, then that £26 ontop.. is pension auto enrollment? And what % is taken / contributed by them? I was going to mention OT next, since we don't have a clocking system, I bet its going to be a headache getting paid what you are owed. So just mark down anything over my contract hours, and hand it to my manager on the last shift of the week? And that 'should get paid the following Friday? I'm remembering other questions now, I apologise for asking lots lol, but is OT only paid a enhanced rate after 37hrs? Or my 27hr contract? Or will I just be on 10.85ph across the board upto the 37? Does that make sense? Haha.. cheers pal, appreciate you replying.

You will be enrolled in the RMDCP pension, there's a decent site which explains most things here: https://rmdcp.uk/help-how-to/how-to
plus the 'Pensions' board on this site (RobertT is the expert!). But there is a new pension (CDC) in the offing but it's
not in place yet.

If they haven't brought in electronic SISO (Sign In/Sign Out) at your office you will record your working hours and
OT daily on stone tablets - joking - good old fashioned paper sheets which, as I said can go missing or remain in the 'pending'
tray when OT is due to be recorded on the pay system, so keep a daily record of what you've worked if you have to chase
it up later.

On your 27hr contract any OT over 27hrs up to 37hrs will be recorded as SSPR OT (can remember what SSPR stands for) but
it includes the delivery supplement and is pensionable. Any OT over 37hrs is NOT RMDCP pensionable and does NOT include the
delivery supplement payment, so in reality the OT rate is worse than your normal pay rate. Personally that is why
I refuse to do any OT over 37hrs.

Christ.. don't think I've ever worked anywhere that over time isn't incentivised, so yeah, 37hr is the sweet spot by the sounds of it, I shall bare that in mind mate thankyou. Just been reading about the pension, after 12month they take 6% and they contribute 10% which is pretty good.. just seen a post that said you get full sick pay for 6 months aswel, which is the best I've ever heard of, not that I'll be utilising that haha. And the joke about the tablet made me laugh aha, ill keep ontop of my OT then.. I'm quite excited tbh, been out of work since April and I'm dying to get back, only so much of the wife and kids I can stomach lol... last question mate.. and ill cut you free, one of my shifts are 15.00-20.00, is there any shift allowance coming to me? Or will just get the usual 10.85?

Thanks again

[yellowbelly]

Not sure about the shift allowance, if I remember rightly it's for work after 2000 but I'm not sure, never been
a thing for me, someone else should be able to advise.

One other thing about the OT recording, make sure you know what your working hours are per day. As you're
on 27hrs don't assume that each working day will be 27hrs divided by 5 ie 5hrs 20m . Your Wed/Thu/Fri scheduled working hours
could be slightly longer than Mon/Tue/Sat and Sun(?) due to busier workloads on those days anticipated and so the amount of OT you've
worked could be different depending which day you've worked it. Check with your manager, every day might be 5h 20m it might not.
Best to find out first.

Another thing that just occurred to me which new starters fall foul of is holiday. Find out how much holiday you're entitled to
and when you can take it, it's notoriously difficult to book holiday when you join part way through the year as this years leave
slots will have been planned late last year. Next years holiday (Apr 23 to Mar 24) should be planned as an office from October this year
if your local management have got their backsides in gear.

[fb1969]

The current "1st 10 hours" rate for someone who has done more than 1 year is about "time and a hundredth". That would be for 37-47 hours total.

The current "over 10 hours" rate for someone who has done more than 1 year is about "time minus 5%". That would be for more than 47 hours.

[Anderson21]

Not sure about the shift allowance, if I remember rightly it's for work after 2000 but I'm not sure, never been
a thing for me, someone else should be able to advise.

One other thing about the OT recording, make sure you know what your working hours are per day. As you're
on 27hrs don't assume that each working day will be 27hrs divided by 5 ie 5hrs 20m . Your Wed/Thu/Fri scheduled working hours
could be slightly longer than Mon/Tue/Sat and Sun(?) due to busier workloads on those days anticipated and so the amount of OT you've
worked could be different depending which day you've worked it. Check with your manager, every day might be 5h 20m it might not.
Best to find out first.

Another thing that just occurred to me which new starters fall foul of is holiday. Find out how much holiday you're entitled to
and when you can take it, it's notoriously difficult to book holiday when you join part way through the year as this years leave
slots will have been planned late last year. Next years holiday (Apr 23 to Mar 24) should be planned as an office from October this year
if your local management have got their backsides in gear.

Thanks for all that mate, I appreciate it, lots of good info there, yeah the recruitment person asked me about holidays on the day they said I was successful, I informed them that I've 2weeks holiday booked and paid for commencing 29th July, I'm hoping they don't push back on it, because well.. that'll be a problem tbh. Not throwing £££ down the drain lol. Not sure what the holiday allowance is for me yet.

[Anderson21]

The current "1st 10 hours" rate for someone who has done more than 1 year is about "time and a hundredth". That would be for 37-47 hours total.

The current "over 10 hours" rate for someone who has done more than 1 year is about "time minus 5%". That would be for more than 47 hours.

The weirdest overtime model I've ever seen tbh.. 95% of jobs I've done in my life has been a minimum of time and Quarter for going over 37.. I don't imagine they get many volunteers for OT haha.. maybe the union should challenge this.. but I'm assuming they Already have.

[fb1969]

No idea of the background but I've never heard the union complain.

You will soon discover that RM runs on overtime, without it things would never be done. It would cost them too much to set the rate too high, and a lot of posties rely on it so there is rarely a problem getting 'volunteers'.

[clashcityrocker]

. maybe the union should challenge this.. but I'm assuming they already have.

Overtime costs jobs.
What the union should be challenging is under resourcing of offices and why full time staff are getting overtime that is preventing part time staff getting improved contracts.