ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE

ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!

Royal Mail IPO. Where does the money go?

The latest news and discussion on Royal Mail Shares.Please note the advise given in this forum is unofficial, please use the links we have for a more detailed response or see an independent financial adviser.
All news and discussion on Daniel Kretinsky's full takeover of Royal Mail.
RedlorryMan
Posts: 16
Joined: 17 Aug 2010, 17:55
Gender: Male

Royal Mail IPO. Where does the money go?

Post by RedlorryMan »

When the Inital Public Offering of shares in Royal Mail is completed next week.where does the proceeds of the IPO go tois it.
1 To Royal Mail to give it money to invest into the company?
As Moya has often quoted We need acess to private capital to invest in the company to complete modernization.
And the ConDem polititions have talked about the need for Royal Mail to have access to Private Capital to invest. And that the Government can not lend that money to Royal Mail without taking it sway from schools and hospitals.

or it it

2 To the government to provide Value for Money for the Tax payer. And to help pay of the national dedebt.

Im confused
RobertT
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 6645
Joined: 09 Sep 2007, 14:26
Gender: Male

Re: Royal Mail IPO. Where does the money go?

Post by RobertT »

It goes to the government.
Links to all RM pension related websites are here
RedlorryMan
Posts: 16
Joined: 17 Aug 2010, 17:55
Gender: Male

Re: Royal Mail IPO. Where does the money go?

Post by RedlorryMan »

by RobertT » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:36 pm It goes to the government.

As I thought.

So how can Royal Mail access private capital then?

If the govt sell of more of there shares in future then that money will also go back to HMG.
TrueBlueTerrier
FORUM ADMINISTRATOR
Posts: 72559
Joined: 30 Dec 2006, 10:29
Gender: Male
Location: On my couch

Re: Royal Mail IPO. Where does the money go?

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

RedlorryMan wrote: So how can Royal Mail access private capital then?
Financing
The main role of the stock market is to act as a barometer for financial health. Analysts are constantly scrutinizing companies and this information affects the companies' traded shares. Because of this, creditors tend to look favorably upon companies whose shares are performing strongly. This preferential treatment is in part due to the tie between a company's earnings and its share price. Over the long term, strong earnings are a good indication that the company will be able to meet debt requirements. As a result, the company will receive cheaper financing through a lower interest rate, which in turn increases the amount of value returned from a capital project.

Alternatively, favorable market performance is useful for a company seeking additional equity financing. If there is demand, a company can always sell more shares to the public to raise money. Essentially this is like printing money, and it isn't bad for the company as long as it doesn't dilute its existing share base too much, in which case issuing more shares can have horrible consequences for existing shareholders
RedlorryMan wrote:If the govt sell of more of there shares in future then that money will also go back to HMG.
Yes, but there is nothing to stop RM selling more shares, though the value of the current ones will go down.
All post by me in Green are Admin Posts.
Any post in any other colour is my own responsibility.
If you like a news story I posted please click the link to show support Any news stories you can't post - PM me with a link
My sharing of news articles should not be interpreted as an endorsement or condemnation of any particular viewpoint or the issues presented. I share them solely for informational purposes.
mandelsons_toenail
Posts: 1294
Joined: 08 Aug 2009, 18:16
Gender: Male
Location: Outer Hebrides

Re: Royal Mail IPO. Where does the money go?

Post by mandelsons_toenail »

Where does the money go?

Image
rhino49
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 1644
Joined: 04 Jun 2007, 21:50
Gender: Male
Location: At home with my feet up

Re: Royal Mail IPO. Where does the money go?

Post by rhino49 »

If the company is now worth so much more - surely it should pay out retrospectively on Colleagueshares ?
We wish to serve - but we will not be servile
UnhappyGremlin
Posts: 2685
Joined: 18 May 2012, 20:49
Gender: Male
Location: Hiding

Re: Royal Mail IPO. Where does the money go?

Post by UnhappyGremlin »

The money goes to the Government who will use it to make some sort of tax cuts in preparation for bribing us for votes in the general election in May 2015. :cuppa
Sometimes, I wish I wasn't a Rep.
wandle
Posts: 944
Joined: 25 Feb 2011, 17:17
Gender: Male

Re: Royal Mail IPO. Where does the money go?

Post by wandle »

rhino49 wrote:If the company is now worth so much more - surely it should pay out retrospectively on Colleagueshares ?
The free shares we are getting in the flotation may not be the only free shares we get. The union has long been asking for a 'replacement for the ColleagueShares scheme', and there is a clue - hidden deep in the prospectus - on how Royal Mail could facilitate this, should the ongoing talks (and a bloody big YES vote) produce results.

from page 81 of the Prospectus:
A further award of Employee Free shares may also be made on or after 6 April 2014 on a similar basis, to Eligible Employees still in Company or RMG  employment

That date is significant. HM Revenue and Customs rules for Share Incentive Plans forbid awards of shares worth more than £3000 in any tax year. The 2014/15 tax year commences on 6 April 2014, so - if Royal Mail are serious about employees being rewarded for making the company more profitable - they could distribute some of the profit directly to us, by awarding a further set of Free Shares. I would expect, though, that any additional shares would then (also) have to be held for 5 years, if holders want to sell them without paying tax.
stephen500
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 1458
Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 04:04

Re: Royal Mail IPO. Where does the money go?

Post by stephen500 »

RedlorryMan wrote:by RobertT » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:36 pm It goes to the government.

As I thought.

So how can Royal Mail access private capital then?

If the govt sell of more of there shares in future then that money will also go back to HMG.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/09/1 ... BR20130911
"Britain's Royal Mail has secured 1.4 billion pounds ($2.21 billion) in debt facilities2
Royal Mail get nothing from the share sale, indeed they pay out about £28m in fees.
They also still owe the government nearly £900m for css machines.
So they now have to give out up to £200m per year as a dividend and service debt.
How about that for a government sleight of hand.