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Royal Mail Workers Beware
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Royal Mail Workers Beware
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Many Royal Mail workers could be tempted into allowing this public service fall into private hands as the ConDem coalition promises to hand over 10% of Royal Mail to employees in shares as a sweetener.
Once eaten, selling off Royal Mail would soon become a bitter pill for workers. Let us learn from our Dutch postal workers that are employed by TNT. The boss of TNT's European Mail Network business said on June 9th, 2010 that he planned to cut 11,000 postal jobs and introduce a 3 times a week delivery service. Collections and deliveries would be outsourced and he attacked the Universal Service Obligation (to deliver to every home) as, "a kind of Jurassic Park and we should get rid of it."
According to Dutch media, all TNT postal workers working over 25 hours a week would lose their job (15,000 were employed full time at the start of 2010). Even those who worked more than 15 hours per week were at risk, according to Dutch News.
In a poll on the Dutch website, only 4.6% of voters felt the service had improved since competition was introduced. A quarter of voters felt that more letters and parcels had gone missing since competition.
Royal Mail workers have been told for a number of years we have been modernising the business along the Dutch model, with working practices transforming over the past decade as competition was introduced to the UK. Now that MP's are poised to sell off Royal Mail, workers need to wake up to the reality that THOUSANDS of jobs will go, working conditions will be totally revised and work patterns torn up. The CWU is now moving in the right direction but may have left it too late, as the government take advantage of a weary workforce.
As a public service, the post can be run for the masses and not the millionaires - we need to defend working conditions and reject the move towards casual labour on minimum wages. The Royal Mail sell off will signal the end for daily deliveries, reduce collections and condemn thousands of workers to the dole queue.
Many Royal Mail workers could be tempted into allowing this public service fall into private hands as the ConDem coalition promises to hand over 10% of Royal Mail to employees in shares as a sweetener.
Once eaten, selling off Royal Mail would soon become a bitter pill for workers. Let us learn from our Dutch postal workers that are employed by TNT. The boss of TNT's European Mail Network business said on June 9th, 2010 that he planned to cut 11,000 postal jobs and introduce a 3 times a week delivery service. Collections and deliveries would be outsourced and he attacked the Universal Service Obligation (to deliver to every home) as, "a kind of Jurassic Park and we should get rid of it."
According to Dutch media, all TNT postal workers working over 25 hours a week would lose their job (15,000 were employed full time at the start of 2010). Even those who worked more than 15 hours per week were at risk, according to Dutch News.
In a poll on the Dutch website, only 4.6% of voters felt the service had improved since competition was introduced. A quarter of voters felt that more letters and parcels had gone missing since competition.
Royal Mail workers have been told for a number of years we have been modernising the business along the Dutch model, with working practices transforming over the past decade as competition was introduced to the UK. Now that MP's are poised to sell off Royal Mail, workers need to wake up to the reality that THOUSANDS of jobs will go, working conditions will be totally revised and work patterns torn up. The CWU is now moving in the right direction but may have left it too late, as the government take advantage of a weary workforce.
As a public service, the post can be run for the masses and not the millionaires - we need to defend working conditions and reject the move towards casual labour on minimum wages. The Royal Mail sell off will signal the end for daily deliveries, reduce collections and condemn thousands of workers to the dole queue.
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borders
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Re: Royal Mail Workers Beware
well he paints the worse case scenario, can we compare Holland to Great Britain ? i dont know .
i work in Distribution and do collections . when i arrive at a business , they all have an array of mail to be picked up. some for other couriers and a bit of mail for me or many bags of PPI for me and a packet for another courier. i see them all , TNT , Business Mail etc etc as i travel around. i then empty boxes which still have a fair bit of mail in them [ maybe thats because they are not emptied so often !!] and then i am responsible for getting the 10pm dispatch away from the warehouse. there used to be many more posties working in the warehouse maybe too many but now we are down to the bare bones.
so would the picture change drastically? the competition is already here and there is not too many more jobs RM can cut out........
i work in Distribution and do collections . when i arrive at a business , they all have an array of mail to be picked up. some for other couriers and a bit of mail for me or many bags of PPI for me and a packet for another courier. i see them all , TNT , Business Mail etc etc as i travel around. i then empty boxes which still have a fair bit of mail in them [ maybe thats because they are not emptied so often !!] and then i am responsible for getting the 10pm dispatch away from the warehouse. there used to be many more posties working in the warehouse maybe too many but now we are down to the bare bones.
so would the picture change drastically? the competition is already here and there is not too many more jobs RM can cut out........
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Wessex
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Re: Royal Mail Workers Beware
Get rid of the USO and you can cut thousands of jobs
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walksyo
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Re: Royal Mail Workers Beware
borders wrote:well he paints the worse case scenario, can we compare Holland to Great Britain ? i dont know .
i work in Distribution and do collections . when i arrive at a business , they all have an array of mail to be picked up. some for other couriers and a bit of mail for me or many bags of PPI for me and a packet for another courier. i see them all , TNT , Business Mail etc etc as i travel around. i then empty boxes which still have a fair bit of mail in them [ maybe thats because they are not emptied so often !!] and then i am responsible for getting the 10pm dispatch away from the warehouse. there used to be many more posties working in the warehouse maybe too many but now we are down to the bare bones.
so would the picture change drastically? the competition is already here and there is not too many more jobs RM can cut out........
you got a good point there mate but straight away if there's a cut back to a 5 day delivery that alone will cost about 20,000 jobs.
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minx
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Re: Royal Mail Workers Beware
not keen about working for foreign co, and TNT has as many 'problems as we have , any one got any news re which customer service centres will be axed and when we're privatised/or sold off to line the pirates in governments pockets ,does that then mean all customer services will be dealt with by the highly trained ,locally knowledgable staff in India as opposed to us who are very pro postie and mail service, i still believe there is no co that can do our job and that royal mail is the best if we could only be left alone to get on with it !
Here is this weeks silly complaint ....... i have not seen a postie deliver in my area on any sunday i wish to log that its unfair some people are getting sunday deliveries and i am not
I have many other amusing complaints that come through , however if i had to do this customer service abuse phone drone thing full time i have to say i couldnt cope not sure how i do to be honest
power to the posties

Here is this weeks silly complaint ....... i have not seen a postie deliver in my area on any sunday i wish to log that its unfair some people are getting sunday deliveries and i am not
I have many other amusing complaints that come through , however if i had to do this customer service abuse phone drone thing full time i have to say i couldnt cope not sure how i do to be honest
power to the posties
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Lounge Lizard
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Re: Royal Mail Workers Beware
" introduce a 3 times a week delivery service " - and that will halve jobs and more than double profits for the new shareholders. 
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barbario
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Re: Royal Mail Workers Beware
TNT already do that,so we could well be next.
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BELIAL
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Re: Royal Mail Workers Beware
as the government take advantage of a weary workforce.
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Si67
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Re: Royal Mail Workers Beware
Who are you kidding!!BELIAL wrote:as the government take advantage of a weary workforce.![]()
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We ain't even started yet
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: Royal Mail Workers Beware
I think its was a warning rather than kiddologySi67 wrote:Who are you kidding!!BELIAL wrote:as the government take advantage of a weary workforce.![]()
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Si67
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Re: Royal Mail Workers Beware
Ahhhh The beer was in full force... Appolagies!!TrueBlueTerrier wrote:I think its was a warning rather than kiddologySi67 wrote:Who are you kidding!!BELIAL wrote:as the government take advantage of a weary workforce.![]()
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BELIAL
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Re: Royal Mail Workers Beware
No need for apollogies ,beer is a fine thing. Remember what someone who knew once said though, 'this country is three meals away from a revolution'. 
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fishtank
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How many courses in those meals?...can i be excused from the table?.BELIAL wrote:No need for apollogies ,beer is a fine thing. Remember what someone who knew once said though, 'this country is three meals away from a revolution'.
I'm already bloated and the wine has stopped flowing.
Can't we just skip the dessert and go straight to the revolution?
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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BELIAL
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fishtank wrote:How many courses in those meals?...can i be excused from the table?.BELIAL wrote:No need for apollogies ,beer is a fine thing. Remember what someone who knew once said though, 'this country is three meals away from a revolution'.
I'm already bloated and the wine has stopped flowing.
Can't we just skip the dessert and go straight to the revolution?
I mean ffs "FOOD SECURITY" 1984 /Metropolis all in one . Lets build a hill fort
Bye