LTB890/10 Postal Services Bill (2010)

[POSTMAN]

13 October 2010
LTB890/10 Postal Services Bill (2010)

No. 890/10
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Date: 13 October 2010







TO: ALL BRANCHES





Dear Colleague,



Postal Services Bill (2010)



Members will have seen news reports concerning the introduction of the Postal Services Bill (2010) into Parliament. We will issue a further LTB as soon as the web address for The Bill is available. Attached are the news releases from the Department for Business Innovation and Skills, and the CWU's initial press release.



The procedure for such a Bill is lengthy. There are five stages through the House of Commons:

(1) Introduction and First Reading

(2) Second Reading (debate on the general principal of the Bill)

(3) Committee Stage (line by line examination of the Bill)

(4) Report Stage (whole House discussion of the Bill)

(5) Third Reading (final debate on the Bill)



It will then be subject to a similar process in the House of Lords. It is only when it has completed these lengthy processes that it will receive Royal Assent and become Law.



This means that the Campaign to Keep the Post Public has several months of intense activity before it if we are to defeat the Bill.



The Government hopes the Bill will become Law by next summer. Already in the terms of the Bill itself, we can see that the Government has been forced to put additional safeguards into the proposals following the initial pressure of our campaign. It is then vital that all Branches step up their work on this issue.


B. Hayes D. Ward

General Secretary Deputy General Secretary (Postal)

LTB 890 10.doc

[fishtank]

The Bill is up already...http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p ... /11078.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[belle smith]

I see billy and dave, have forgot to mention here that we are already modernising!
seems to be to a large extent the thrust of their argument elsewhere, worried that we would not be so appreciative?

[fishtank]

There goes the pension.......

16 Transfer of qualifying accrued rights to new public scheme

(1) The Secretary of State may by order establish a scheme (a “new public scheme”) which, in respect of pensionable service under the RMPP before the qualifying time, provides for pensions or other benefits to be payable to or in respect of persons who are or have
been qualifying members of the RMPP.

(2) The Secretary of State may by order make provision for the transfer of qualifying accrued rights to a new public scheme (without the need for any approval or consent to the transfer).

(3) An order under subsection (2) may include provision for the discharge of liabilities in respect of the qualifying accrued rights that are transferred.
(4) A new public scheme may—
(a) include provision for increasing in particular circumstances the amounts payable in respect of qualifying accrued rights,
(b) include provision in relation to any persons who are active members of the RMPP which (despite the effect of section 15(3)) differs from the provision made in relation to persons who are deferred members of the
RMPP,
(c) include provision for the payment of transfer values, and
(d) include provision for the transfer of money purchase benefits under the RMPP into the scheme (whether or not the contributions to which those benefits are attributable are made before or after the qualifying time)and the conversion of those benefits into benefits under the scheme.
(5) An order under this section may include provision for treating a new public
scheme as an occupational pension scheme for the purposes of any provision
made by or under any enactment specified, or of a description specified, in the
order.
(6) An order under this section may include provision for—
(a) treating a new public scheme as a salary-related contracted out scheme for the purposes of Part 3 of the Pension Schemes Act 1993, and
(b) applying any provision of that Part with modifications.
(7) Provision made by an order under this section may have retrospective effect.
(8) The Secretary of State may—
(a) provide for a new public scheme to be administered by any person, and
(b) delegate to any person any functions exercisable by the Secretary of State under a new public scheme.

[dvbuk55]

Well keeping the post public campaign doesn't actually mention our pension - it goes on to say that there should be a six day, one price goes anywhere service and the government underwrites the pensions deficit - which is included in the bill - how long for would be anyones guess once it had been sold off.

I mean looking at it at face value what is there to campaign against? - the pension? - well it didn't cause much of a stir at national level last time.

[POSTMAN]

without the need for any approval or consent to the transfer WTF!

[clashcityrocker]

When do we get the shares and how much will they be worth?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

When do we get the shares and how much will they be worth?

[dvbuk55]

When do we get the shares and how much will they be worth?

Eventually and FA

[AlbertoGranado]

When do we get the shares and how much will they be worth?

divide 10% of FUCKAW by the amount of royal mail staff...oh....and pro rata for part timers and pay grades

[mr hil.]

Wow what a read....

1. So we get sold off
   The government gets all Our pensions Assets and sets us up with a new public pension!!
   Ofcon can carve up the country,

   More than one USO company..All or Part of a region with no overlapping of USO obligation(Goodbye London weighting welcome TNT )

   We get "shares or the benefits from shares" 10% of what though!!!!

I'm off to bed.......