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RobertT
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Post by RobertT »

wandle wrote:
RobertT wrote: Plus, we will have 6 months to decide whether to buy or not, starting on 1st December.
If you are correct, it would be good
Taken from the SAYE booklet:
When can I buy my shares?

You can buy your shares (exercise your option) within six months of the end of the savings term. The savings term will normally end on 1 December 2017, if you have not taken any payment holidays. Your opportunity to buy shares at the option price will automatically end if you do not choose to buy your shares within six months of your savings term ending. Equiniti will write to you with full details when your savings term is due to end.
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Post by Spedley »

I'll be buying asap. If they go below 360p I doubt I'll bother cashing in and then buying for the sake of a few £ but the sooner the 2 years to avoid tax is up the better.
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Post by wandle »

Spedley, there is no 2-year wait to avoid tax on SAYE scheme shares. You can convert savings into shares and sell them the next morning
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Post by heapsy »

wandle wrote:
RobertT wrote: Plus, we will have 6 months to decide whether to buy or not, starting on 1st December.
If you are correct, it would be good, because by the time we reach 1st June 2018, the pension issue WILL have been resolved, one way or another, because the current scheme IS closing, and there has to be something in place on April 1st to replace it. So the uncertainty weighing the share price down will have lifted.

In my opinion, if you truly believe the share price will be higher then than it is now, you really should convert your savings into shares on or around 1st December, not wait until late-May before deciding. Why? Well, the 'record date' to be eligible for the interim dividend (following the half-year results announcement) will follow within a week or so of 1st December, so if you convert to shares early, you'll get a dividend payment of 590 x 7.5p* [£44.25] that you won't get if you delay converting into shares.

Sell the shares you converted into in early July 2018, and you'll have been a shareholder on the 'record date' for eligibility / entitlement to the full-year dividend too, likely to be at least 15.7p*

That's a total of 23.2p in a little over 7 months on shares acquired for 360p

Show me where you can get a 6.44% tax-free return on the high street, and I'll happily withdraw my savings to park them there !

The share price would have to be below 342p for you to have 'lost out' compared to just taking your savings as cash, when you consider the 2 dividend payments, and a dealing cost of say £25.

*assumes maximum amount paid-in (£14.75/week) and only a modest increase from this financial year's dividend payments


You've made some good points here regarding dividends. I bought RM shares privately when they floated. I also took advantage of the EPO, buying at a discount. I will purchase more shares and intend to have the share certificate posted to me. I'll then transfer the shares into my share account. The future dividends will build up more quickly, therefore buying more shares. I'm intend to use this as an enhancement to my lump sum from the RM NRA60 pension when I retire in just under 10 years.
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Post by Glenno »

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Post by heapsy »

For those that might be interested. Got this from a fellow postie I know from another office http://invezz.com/news/equities/27282-R ... l-parcels-" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by RandyBeanz »

Just realised on my pay slip this week there is no SAYE scheme on the reductions. Is everyone else's the same?
RobertT
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Post by RobertT »

J Whiteside wrote:Just realised on my pay slip this week there is no SAYE scheme on the reductions. Is everyone else's the same?
The last week that SAYE payments came out of our wages was the week commencing monday 31st July, unless you took an payment holiday.

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The Bundler
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Post by The Bundler »

Yes I was talking at work today about SAYE and noticed today no payment has been taken from my wages since beginning of August, what's happened?
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Post by wannabeek »

It means you've paid up in full. Now just wait until Dec 1st and decide whether to use that pot to buy shares or not. You have a further six months to make your mind up.
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Post by heapsy »

The Bundler wrote:Yes I was talking at work today about SAYE and noticed today no payment has been taken from my wages since beginning of August, what's happened?
Last payment was taken on the week payment date 04/08/2017. I think It's around December that the broker will write to us regarding what we want to do, ie buy the shares, get our money back etc.
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Post by wandle »

The Bundler wrote:Yes I was talking at work today about SAYE and noticed today no payment has been taken from my wages since beginning of August, what's happened?
People who applied for the maximum had their applications scaled back. The maximum anyone could save was £59 per month, or, if weekly paid, £14.75/week.

Weekly-paid staff's deductions ceased 12 weeks before those of monthly-paid staff due to the fact that there are 52 weeks in a year and if our contributions were not capped at 144 weeks, weekly-paid staff would gain an advantage over monthly-paid staff
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Post by Alfie1425 »

Does anyone know if they’ll do another scheme like this?
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Post by RobertT »

Alfie1425 wrote:Does anyone know if they’ll do another scheme like this?
They did say in the booklet we got when SAYE was launched, that they had no plans to do another scheme. They haven't announced any changes to that as far as I know, so I believe the answer is no!
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Post by Alfie1425 »

Ok thanks