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Pushing Empty/Nested Yorks

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Pushing Empty/Nested Yorks

Post by Chris888 »

Hi

Regarding pushing empty/nested yorks, I know that the maximum you should push at a time is about 5, but I just wanted to know, can one person be expected to push at least 5 at a time?

I've recently been asked to push 5 empty/nested yorks at a time, and I'm finding it pretty hard to push 5 at a time on my own.
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Re: Pushing Empty/Nested Yorks

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Somebody in our office recently damaged his hand while pushing 5 yorks nested together.

He's not being paid while he's off sick because you're supposed to push ONE AT A TIME !!!!
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Re: Pushing Empty/Nested Yorks

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I thought it was 3 and they had to be fastened together ?
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You can move three nested yorks by yourself. Five should have two people.
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If you ask your manager he should be able to give you the SSOW for pushing yorks.
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Re: Pushing Empty/Nested Yorks

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In my MC the ruling is you can only push one yorkie at a time. I was told off this eveing for pushing two at once.So to be pushing five is quite unbelievable actually. :nana
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Re: Pushing Empty/Nested Yorks

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Pushing yorks is 1 at a time.... I think there on about collapsed yorks nested together
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Re: Pushing Empty/Nested Yorks

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Hi, I know you're only allowed to push one at a time if it's filled, but if they are empty/collapsed yorks slotted together, you're allowed to push more than one at a time, but I'm not sure how many.
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It's 3. And they MUST be strapped together, to make them easier to control.
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Sorry,i mis-understood what you meant. Yes,with the yorkies collapsed and nested together,we normally drag four or five at once in my MC.
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I can't even move 3 let alone any more!
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Doesn't refer specifically to the issue of empty nested York Containers but valuable nonetheless.
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Thanks.
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Re: Pushing Empty/Nested Yorks

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Came across the following although dated 2005 with regards to the movement of empty Yorks.

11. Moving Empty Yorks

The operating methods apply to vehicles designed to carry York containers, which can be loaded/unloaded
from a dock leveller, or tail lift.

Operating Principles
1. All vehicles must be fitted with load restraint straps.
2. The preferred method of moving empty York containers is in the single assembled state. If tail lifts
are used this is the only acceptable method. It is acknowledged that significant time advantages
can be gained from moving multiple nested Yorks. However, this method should only be
considered where dock levellers are available and where ground conditions are good.
3. A local risk assessment must be carried out to ensure that the method selected for moving empty
Yorks is acceptable.
4. A York container should always be moved in the assembled state when loading to or unloading
from a vehicle using a tail-lift.
5. The principles for handling York containers described in the "Handling the Future"
Containerisation manual must be observed. The only variation in this Safe Systems Of Work
relates to the nesting arrangement in road vehicles, and the movement of nested Yorks in the
specific circumstances described in this document.
6. It is only necessary to nest York containers in road vehicles when the quantity exceeds vehicle
capacity for assembled York containers.

IMPORTANT Risk assessment has demonstrated that loading nested Yorks on vehicle tail lifts
involves intolerable risks and must not be used under any circumstances.
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Re: Pushing Empty/Nested Yorks

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Chris888 wrote:Hi, I know you're only allowed to push one at a time if it's filled, but if they are empty/collapsed yorks slotted together, you're allowed to push more than one at a time, but I'm not sure how many.
That would depend on a risk assessment at your workplace. Our H&S Rep did a risk assessment, and due to narrow aisles and cramped conditions in our MC we are only supposed to move one empty York at a time. Also only one york can be taken off a lorry at a time.
Three empty nested yorks can be loaded onto the lower deck of a lorry, but only one at a time onto the lowered top deck of a double deck artic.