Bike helmets - a rant

[DB1100]

DB - thanks for the link. I agree with most of the comments, that having to wear a hi-viz in broad daylight is bloody silly - and they can be surprisingly hot, so they are a real pain in hot weather. Our managers, being a bunch of jobsworths, insist on us wearing one when and where the rfules say we should, however ridiculous. I suppose it's no big deal, if they want to be tiresome about it, except that they are, as I say, quite hot in summer.
Brothermagrew - have accidents and injuries deceased since then? Bet not!

I object to the principle of it SteveH,I was taught how to cross roads a long time ago and having lived so far without a bloody hi vis vest I will continue to do so,thank f++k some of these people on this site were not around at the time of the D Day landings otherwise they would be still stuck on the LSL's in the English channel waiting for a risk assesment

[DGP1]

DB - thanks for the link. I agree with most of the comments, that having to wear a hi-viz in broad daylight is bloody silly - and they can be surprisingly hot, so they are a real pain in hot weather. Our managers, being a bunch of jobsworths, insist on us wearing one when and where the rfules say we should, however ridiculous. I suppose it's no big deal, if they want to be tiresome about it, except that they are, as I say, quite hot in summer.
Brothermagrew - have accidents and injuries deceased since then? Bet not!

I object to the principle of it SteveH,I was taught how to cross roads a long time ago and having lived so far without a bloody hi vis vest I will continue to do so,thank f++k some of these people on this site were not around at the time of the D Day landings otherwise they would be still stuck on the LSL's in the English channel waiting for a risk assesment

You can complain all you want but at the end of the day, RM have deemed them to be PPE and they will sack you if you fail to follow it.

Don't wear them and get sacked and then explain to the tribunal that you refused on principle and see how far you get.

[SteveH]

DB - thanks for the link. I agree with most of the comments, that having to wear a hi-viz in broad daylight is bloody silly - and they can be surprisingly hot, so they are a real pain in hot weather. Our managers, being a bunch of jobsworths, insist on us wearing one when and where the rfules say we should, however ridiculous. I suppose it's no big deal, if they want to be tiresome about it, except that they are, as I say, quite hot in summer.
Brothermagrew - have accidents and injuries deceased since then? Bet not!

I object to the principle of it SteveH,I was taught how to cross roads a long time ago and having lived so far without a bloody hi vis vest I will continue to do so,thank f++k some of these people on this site were not around at the time of the D Day landings otherwise they would be still stuck on the LSL's in the English channel waiting for a risk assesment

Good for you!
Would you believe that HCN has a notice at the bottom of the stairs, telling us how to climb stairs?

[DB1100]

DB - thanks for the link. I agree with most of the comments, that having to wear a hi-viz in broad daylight is bloody silly - and they can be surprisingly hot, so they are a real pain in hot weather. Our managers, being a bunch of jobsworths, insist on us wearing one when and where the rfules say we should, however ridiculous. I suppose it's no big deal, if they want to be tiresome about it, except that they are, as I say, quite hot in summer.
Brothermagrew - have accidents and injuries deceased since then? Bet not!

I object to the principle of it SteveH,I was taught how to cross roads a long time ago and having lived so far without a bloody hi vis vest I will continue to do so,thank f++k some of these people on this site were not around at the time of the D Day landings otherwise they would be still stuck on the LSL's in the English channel waiting for a risk assesment

Good for you!
Would you believe that HCN has a notice at the bottom of the stairs, telling us how to climb stairs?

Sadly I can,There was a programme a while back called A life of grime.and it featured a chap called Victor Trebus he was a scruffy old sod and his house was in a right state,the local council descended on it and ruled it dangerous and the council health and safety police had all the gear on,hi vis vests and hard hats telling Victor to not go near it,Victor had been in the polish army in the second world war and had been captured by the SS and sent to a concentration camp and here was this council hero telling him his own house was dangerous ffs

[Dorset Plodder]

The most idiotic H&S notice I ever saw was on a "Rubber Stamp", we used it to stamp wood that was to be rejected. It said something like "BEWARE- If you trap your finger between the stamp and the wood it may hurt" I s**t you not!

Manager was a total control freak who liked to cover ALL the bases! At least he was made Redundant with everyone else.

[DB1100]

The most idiotic H&S notice I ever saw was on a "Rubber Stamp", we used it to stamp wood that was to be rejected. It said something like "BEWARE- If you trap your finger between the stamp and the wood it may hurt" I s**t you not!

Manager was a total control freak who liked to cover ALL the bases! At least he was made Redundant with everyone else.

We ought to have a thread for this,but I am sure our own detachment of the H & S police would smother it with a hi vis vest.

[brothermagrew]

Well i am sure to the annoyance of brother SteveH with regards to cycle helmets and compulsion it looks as if the Northern Ireland Assembly are moving towards this, unless of course it has been stopped in its tracks. Which would mean if it carries through until Royal Assent is given all Northern Ireland posties will come under its provisions when and if it finally becomes enacted.

1. The Cyclists (Protective Headgear) Bill (NIA 9/10) was referred to the Committee for the Environment for consideration in accordance with Standing Order 33(1) on completion of the Second Stage of the Bill on 31 January 2011.

2. The Member in charge of the Bill, Mr Pat Ramsey, made the following statement under Standing Order 30:

‘In my view the Cyclists (Protective Headgear) Bill would be within the legislative competence of the Northern Ireland Assembly.’

3. The aim of the Bill is to require cyclists of all ages to wear protective headgear when cycling on any public roads or paths, or in parks. The objective of the Bill is to reduce death and serious injury amongst cyclists.

4. Under the Bill, it would be the responsibility of the police to enforce the provisions. The proposed penalty for breach of the provisions would be an on-the-spot fine of £50. However, in the case of a first contravention, the fine could be waived where the person issued with the penalty charge notice presents at a police station with a new helmet and receipt for its purchase. Breach of the provisions will not constitute a criminal offence.

Regardless of which side of the spectrum you believe in it is worthy of a read.

http://www.niassembly.gov.uk/environmen ... 10_11R.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.niassembly.gov.uk/legislatio ... ll9_10.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[SteveH]

Some control-freak trying his luck. Probably won't come to anything.

[DGP1]

Some control-freak trying his luck. Probably won't come to anything.

Yeah, just like the carrier bag tax........or the mutli-buy alcohol................or the smoking ban etc.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it won't be put into law.

[DB1100]

Some control-freak trying his luck. Probably won't come to anything.

Yeah, just like the carrier bag tax........or the mutli-buy alcohol................or the smoking ban etc.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it won't be put into law.

They don't enforce the laws they have now,so whats the point in making more

[DB1100]

DB - thanks for the link. I agree with most of the comments, that having to wear a hi-viz in broad daylight is bloody silly - and they can be surprisingly hot, so they are a real pain in hot weather. Our managers, being a bunch of jobsworths, insist on us wearing one when and where the rfules say we should, however ridiculous. I suppose it's no big deal, if they want to be tiresome about it, except that they are, as I say, quite hot in summer.
Brothermagrew - have accidents and injuries deceased since then? Bet not!

I object to the principle of it SteveH,I was taught how to cross roads a long time ago and having lived so far without a bloody hi vis vest I will continue to do so,thank f++k some of these people on this site were not around at the time of the D Day landings otherwise they would be still stuck on the LSL's in the English channel waiting for a risk assesment

You can complain all you want but at the end of the day, RM have deemed them to be PPE and they will sack you if you fail to follow it.

Don't wear them and get sacked and then explain to the tribunal that you refused on principle and see how far you get.

You don't have to wear them walking down the pavement,but if you feel safe with one on you wear one

[DGP1]

DB - thanks for the link. I agree with most of the comments, that having to wear a hi-viz in broad daylight is bloody silly - and they can be surprisingly hot, so they are a real pain in hot weather. Our managers, being a bunch of jobsworths, insist on us wearing one when and where the rfules say we should, however ridiculous. I suppose it's no big deal, if they want to be tiresome about it, except that they are, as I say, quite hot in summer.
Brothermagrew - have accidents and injuries deceased since then? Bet not!

I object to the principle of it SteveH,I was taught how to cross roads a long time ago and having lived so far without a bloody hi vis vest I will continue to do so,thank f++k some of these people on this site were not around at the time of the D Day landings otherwise they would be still stuck on the LSL's in the English channel waiting for a risk assesment

You can complain all you want but at the end of the day, RM have deemed them to be PPE and they will sack you if you fail to follow it.

Don't wear them and get sacked and then explain to the tribunal that you refused on principle and see how far you get.

You don't have to wear them walking down the pavement,but if you feel safe with one on you wear one

You just don't get it, RM have made them compulsory to wear so you have to wear them............failure to do so will end up with you being sacked and you won't be able to defend your principled position.

I haven't said about them being safer or not, if you don't want to wear one when out on your own bike then I really don't care, it's up to you.

[DB1100]

DB - thanks for the link. I agree with most of the comments, that having to wear a hi-viz in broad daylight is bloody silly - and they can be surprisingly hot, so they are a real pain in hot weather. Our managers, being a bunch of jobsworths, insist on us wearing one when and where the rfules say we should, however ridiculous. I suppose it's no big deal, if they want to be tiresome about it, except that they are, as I say, quite hot in summer.
Brothermagrew - have accidents and injuries deceased since then? Bet not!

I object to the principle of it SteveH,I was taught how to cross roads a long time ago and having lived so far without a bloody hi vis vest I will continue to do so,thank f++k some of these people on this site were not around at the time of the D Day landings otherwise they would be still stuck on the LSL's in the English channel waiting for a risk assesment

You can complain all you want but at the end of the day, RM have deemed them to be PPE and they will sack you if you fail to follow it.

Don't wear them and get sacked and then explain to the tribunal that you refused on principle and see how far you get.

You don't have to wear them walking down the pavement,but if you feel safe with one on you wear one

You just don't get it, RM have made them compulsory to wear so you have to wear them............failure to do so will end up with you being sacked and you won't be able to defend your principled position.

I haven't said about them being safer or not, if you don't want to wear one when out on your own bike then I really don't care, it's up to you.

Read the uniform regs before you start spouting off,you have to wear them on a bike or on driving duties but NOT WHEN WALKING ON THE PAVEMENT.You will not get sacked for not wearing them.I have been stopped by I.B on my round to check my bag,have you got your specials on you,yes I replied 2 here you are,havee you got your I.D badge yes I replied and produced it,you do not have to have it on display,then came wheres your Hi vis vest? I replied I wear it in the yard and I wear it when I am driving but not on a walking duty,he then asked how do you get back into the yard,I said I carry it in my bag which satisifed him,no conduct code and no sacking

[DGP1]

FFS there's no talking to you, since when have I said you have to wear it walking on the footpath.....................please point it out??

sometimes I wonder what kind of people are actually employed by RM these days

[DB1100]

FFS there's no talking to you, since when have I said you have to wear it walking on the footpath.....................please point it out??

sometimes I wonder what kind of people are actually employed by RM these days

Are you retarded? if you read the original post about hi vis vests you will plainly see that,pehaps if you spent a bit more time with out your head up your arse you would have noticed that but like you say I wonder about some of the people employed by Royal Mail,but then I realise because of people like you we have all these daft rules