LTB 485/2021 – Royal Mail Materials Handling Containerisation Update & Christmas Arrangements 2021 – Health & Safety Aspects : The BIGGEST ever LTB ever

[POSTMAN]

Stop quoting the whole f***ing conversation.

[2yearpostie]

Loose load? As in back a truck up throw parcels in, back the truck up at a delivery office, tip it and drive off?

[SpacePhoenix]

Loose load? As in back a truck up throw parcels in, back the truck up at a delivery office, tip it and drive off?

Having the stuff loose in the back of the truck (not in any sort of container - york/sleeve/tray)

[2yearpostie]

Loose load? As in back a truck up throw parcels in, back the truck up at a delivery office, tip it and drive off?

Having the stuff loose in the back of the truck (not in any sort of container - york/sleeve/tray)

I can 100% promise you no delivery office will accept that.

[SpacePhoenix]

Tough luck Like it or not if we've not got any yorks or pallets it'll have to go loose loaded. We don't have the room for it to stay in the MC

[2yearpostie]

Tough luck Like it or not if we've not got any yorks or pallets it'll have to go loose loaded. We don't have the room for it to stay in the MC

You wont have any trucks to load the next day either if they are all sat at the mc fully loaded after being sent back.

[SpacePhoenix]

Tough luck Like it or not if we've not got any yorks or pallets it'll have to go loose loaded. We don't have the room for it to stay in the MC

You wont have any trucks to load the next day either if they are all sat at the mc fully loaded after being sent back.

Tough luck. It'll be unloaded at the DOs whether you like it or not

[2yearpostie]

Tough luck Like it or not if we've not got any yorks or pallets it'll have to go loose loaded. We don't have the room for it to stay in the MC

You wont have any trucks to load the next day either if they are all sat at the mc fully loaded after being sent back.

Tough luck. It'll be unloaded at the DOs whether you like it or not

By whom? wont be the delivery office staff. Until it has a rfd scan its not accepted at the D.O and is a MC problem.

[clashcityrocker]

And so it starts again.

[SpacePhoenix]

Tough luck Like it or not if we've not got any yorks or pallets it'll have to go loose loaded. We don't have the room for it to stay in the MC

You wont have any trucks to load the next day either if they are all sat at the mc fully loaded after being sent back.

Tough luck. It'll be unloaded at the DOs whether you like it or not

By whom? wont be the delivery office staff. Until it has a rfd scan its not accepted at the D.O and is a MC problem.

If need be the lorry driver will have to unload it. Whether it's accepted or not at the DO it will be unloaded there. It's a DO problem, not a MC problem

[mjd24]

Tough luck Like it or not if we've not got any yorks or pallets it'll have to go loose loaded. We don't have the room for it to stay in the MC

Surprised you can get yourself in the door there.

[SpacePhoenix]

This time of year, by the time a lorry arrives back it'll already have another full load waiting for it. Apart from when drivers are on breaks, it'll be arrive, unload any empty yorks and sleeves, load up and go

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Tough luck Like it or not if we've not got any yorks or pallets it'll have to go loose loaded. We don't have the room for it to stay in the MC

Hint DOs are SMALLER than MCs our space is even more restricted. All you are doing is passing on the grief, pass it upwards instead of downwards. I don't know of any DO that is larger than even the smallest MC.

As you keep posting in Deliveries, can I point out that even in MCs it's the Managers who are paid to make the decisions, NOT posties?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

The f**k you attitude is appalling.

It's a case of practicality. With the amount of work that we have coming in, we don't have the space to store it so it has to go out to the DOs, whether they have the room or not. Chances are that we'll have to send out any cardboard sleeves without the false bases as we'll need to maximise the amount of mail that can be loaded onto a lorry to the DOs. With the driver shortage they'll effectively be no extra lorries for MC -> DO runs

Say a big DO gets 4-5k of Tracked a night at Xmas, the MC could be dealing with 70-80k. You've probably got a simialr amount of non-Tracked as well.

You'd better hope that we're allowed to roll-over any left-over sequence batches otherwise some days DOs will be getting 20+ trays of manual. This time of year running it through our iLSMs (which would normally be our backup) isn't an option as they'll be running outward sort plans. It'll be no good sending them back to the MC as we'll just send them straight back to you as we won't have the capacity to run it

This is the attitude that is appalling. It is declared against H&S because of injuries caused because we don't have the equipment to deal with it.

But you as an MC worker say tough, if you get hurt its doesn't matter as long as we get the work out in any condition.

Great Solidarity.

Just in case you don't understand - yes, I am taking it personally, and YES I am angry about it.

[SpacePhoenix]

The f**k you attitude is appalling.

It's a case of practicality. With the amount of work that we have coming in, we don't have the space to store it so it has to go out to the DOs, whether they have the room or not. Chances are that we'll have to send out any cardboard sleeves without the false bases as we'll need to maximise the amount of mail that can be loaded onto a lorry to the DOs. With the driver shortage they'll effectively be no extra lorries for MC -> DO runs

Say a big DO gets 4-5k of Tracked a night at Xmas, the MC could be dealing with 70-80k. You've probably got a simialr amount of non-Tracked as well.

You'd better hope that we're allowed to roll-over any left-over sequence batches otherwise some days DOs will be getting 20+ trays of manual. This time of year running it through our iLSMs (which would normally be our backup) isn't an option as they'll be running outward sort plans. It'll be no good sending them back to the MC as we'll just send them straight back to you as we won't have the capacity to run it

This is the attitude that is appalling. It is declared against H&S because of injuries caused because we don't have the equipment to deal with it.

But you as an MC worker say tough, if you get hurt its doesn't matter as long as we get the work out in any condition.

Great Solidarity.

Just in case you don't understand - yes, I am taking it personally, and YES I am angry about it.

Well take it up with higher up, we don't have any control over what equipment arrives at the MC. For the umpteenth time, we can't use what we don't have. It can't stay in the MC as we've got to process outward and inward mail. We can't process the outward mail as and when we want as it has to be ready to go at a fixed time. Apart from SDs you've got no deadlines when work has to be done by, we do.