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HSE inspection and enforcement drops off the chart

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fishtank
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Re: HSE inspection and enforcement drops off the chart

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Patrick Clifton wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
chunk wrote:Before i start sounding like know anything whats this 5kg limit been mentioned?
According to the bag weight matrix - posties on walks that are predominantly stairs (flats/tenements) should not be carrying more than 5kg.
What?!?! First I have heard about this! I shall write this one down and keep it in a very safe place for future use :no no
Weight on delivery
This simple term covers much of our member’s exposure to manual handling
whilst undertaking delivery work. In legal terms Manual Handling refers to the
lifting, lowering, pushing, pulling or carrying of a load. Your employer has a legal
duty to ensure that you or your members come to as little harm as possible from
its undertaking.

Weights: - ‘Must be monitored and adequately controlled- the maximum pouch
weight is;’
• 1st pouch 16kg,
• 2nd pouch must not weigh more than 16kg,
• 3rd pouch 12kg,
• 4th pouch 10kg,
• 5th pouch 10kg and
• 6th pouch 8kg and a maximum of 8kg thereafter.

However, the Max Pouch weights must be reduced if walking up slopes greater
than 1 in 12 to 8kg and reduced to a Max of 5kg if walking up slopes greater than
1 in 8 or the delivery walk is one that predominantly goes up and down stairs etc.

For young people under 18 the maximum weight of a pouch must not exceed
10kg.

*Note: Some Areas have introduced an alternative, simplified Pouch Weight
arrangement as follows: The maximum pouch weight is 16kg first pouch and the
maximum weight of all following pouches must not weigh more than 11kg and
such arrangements can continue with the same monitored and adequate controls
to avoid excess weight being carried).

All weights are ‘Maximum Weights’ not ‘Target Weights’. Additionally, individual
capability may also need to be considered in certain cases when carrying out a
Walk Risk Assessment.

Cycles can only carry one pouch of 16kg max. Cycle panniers can only carry 8kg
max each side (Subject to a security assessment).

Below are the only trolleys currently authorised for use:
Three pannier trolley (being phased out), max load 54 kg and Max, gross weight
is 80kg with 18kg per pannier
Lightweight golf trolley – max load 32 kg and max gross weight is 38.6kg with
16kg per pannier
High Capacity Trolley – on flat/undulating terrain the max load is 70kg and the
Max gross weight 105kg.
Last edited by fishtank on 18 May 2010, 16:41, edited 1 time in total.
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clashcityrocker
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Re: HSE inspection and enforcement drops off the chart

Post by clashcityrocker »

fishtank wrote: Your employer has a legal
duty to ensure that you or your members come to as little harm as possible from
its undertaking.
A legal duty. My favourite bit of the whole post.
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Patrick Clifton
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Re: HSE inspection and enforcement drops off the chart

Post by Patrick Clifton »

fishtank wrote:
Patrick Clifton wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
chunk wrote:Before i start sounding like know anything whats this 5kg limit been mentioned?
According to the bag weight matrix - posties on walks that are predominantly stairs (flats/tenements) should not be carrying more than 5kg.
What?!?! First I have heard about this! I shall write this one down and keep it in a very safe place for future use :no no
Weight on delivery
This simple term covers much of our member’s exposure to manual handling
whilst undertaking delivery work. In legal terms Manual Handling refers to the
lifting, lowering, pushing, pulling or carrying of a load. Your employer has a legal
duty to ensure that you or your members come to as little harm as possible from
its undertaking.

Weights: - ‘Must be monitored and adequately controlled- the maximum pouch
weight is;’
• 1st pouch 16kg,
• 2nd pouch must not weigh more than 16kg,
• 3rd pouch 12kg,
• 4th pouch 10kg,
• 5th pouch 10kg and
• 6th pouch 8kg and a maximum of 8kg thereafter.

However, the Max Pouch weights must be reduced if walking up slopes greater
than 1 in 12 to 8kg and reduced to a Max of 5kg if walking up slopes greater than
1 in 8 or the delivery walk is one that predominantly goes up and down stairs etc.

For young people under 18 the maximum weight of a pouch must not exceed
10kg.

*Note: Some Areas have introduced an alternative, simplified Pouch Weight
arrangement as follows: The maximum pouch weight is 16kg first pouch and the
maximum weight of all following pouches must not weigh more than 11kg and
such arrangements can continue with the same monitored and adequate controls
to avoid excess weight being carried).

All weights are ‘Maximum Weights’ not ‘Target Weights’. Additionally, individual
capability may also need to be considered in certain cases when carrying out a
Walk Risk Assessment.

Cycles can only carry one pouch of 16kg max. Cycle panniers can only carry 8kg
max each side (Subject to a security assessment).

Below are the only trolleys currently authorised for use:
Three pannier trolley (being phased out), max load 54 kg and Max, gross weight
is 80kg with 18kg per pannier
Lightweight golf trolley – max load 32 kg and max gross weight is 38.6kg with
16kg per pannier
High Capacity Trolley – on flat/undulating terrain the max load is 70kg and the
Max gross weight 105kg.
Handy to know and remember this with the changes coming up :Very Happy

Could play right into my hands :dance
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Re: HSE inspection and enforcement drops off the chart

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Only problem now being as of Friday 21st May 2010 - See LTB 448/10 dated 24th May 2010 - This LTB is to confirm the national introduction of a new simplified pouch weight matrix, in line with CWU Conference Policy. The national introduction and roll out commenced as of Friday 21 May 2010.

Introduction of a New Pouch Weight Standard - Simplified 16k/11k Matrix & Terrain Adjustments.
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fishtank
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Re: HSE inspection and enforcement drops off the chart

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brothermagrew wrote:Only problem now being as of Friday 21st May 2010 - See LTB 448/10 dated 24th May 2010 - This LTB is to confirm the national introduction of a new simplified pouch weight matrix, in line with CWU Conference Policy. The national introduction and roll out commenced as of Friday 21 May 2010.

Introduction of a New Pouch Weight Standard - Simplified 16k/11k Matrix & Terrain Adjustments.
Indeed Brother. :Applause http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=27236" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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fishtank wrote:
brothermagrew wrote:Only problem now being as of Friday 21st May 2010 - See LTB 448/10 dated 24th May 2010 - This LTB is to confirm the national introduction of a new simplified pouch weight matrix, in line with CWU Conference Policy. The national introduction and roll out commenced as of Friday 21 May 2010.

Introduction of a New Pouch Weight Standard - Simplified 16k/11k Matrix & Terrain Adjustments.
Indeed Brother. :Applause http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=27236" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Yep and kudos to you brother fishtank for your initial posting on this subject :Applause :Applause
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Patrick Clifton
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Re: HSE inspection and enforcement drops off the chart

Post by Patrick Clifton »

brothermagrew wrote:Only problem now being as of Friday 21st May 2010 - See LTB 448/10 dated 24th May 2010 - This LTB is to confirm the national introduction of a new simplified pouch weight matrix, in line with CWU Conference Policy. The national introduction and roll out commenced as of Friday 21 May 2010.

Introduction of a New Pouch Weight Standard - Simplified 16k/11k Matrix & Terrain Adjustments.
Should 'roll out' have happened by now? I have not heard anything mentioned about new pouch weights.
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Re: HSE inspection and enforcement drops off the chart

Post by brothermagrew »

Patrick Clifton wrote:
brothermagrew wrote:Only problem now being as of Friday 21st May 2010 - See LTB 448/10 dated 24th May 2010 - This LTB is to confirm the national introduction of a new simplified pouch weight matrix, in line with CWU Conference Policy. The national introduction and roll out commenced as of Friday 21 May 2010.

Introduction of a New Pouch Weight Standard - Simplified 16k/11k Matrix & Terrain Adjustments.
Should 'roll out' have happened by now? I have not heard anything mentioned about new pouch weights.
Suggest then PC that you read the above quoted LTB providing you are of course a member of the CWU.
"Today’s workplace has become heartless and soulless. Employees are seen as units of labour, automatons, functionaries, objects for achieving designated tasks, and as costs to be minimised."
Patrick Clifton
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Re: HSE inspection and enforcement drops off the chart

Post by Patrick Clifton »

brothermagrew wrote:
Patrick Clifton wrote:
brothermagrew wrote:Only problem now being as of Friday 21st May 2010 - See LTB 448/10 dated 24th May 2010 - This LTB is to confirm the national introduction of a new simplified pouch weight matrix, in line with CWU Conference Policy. The national introduction and roll out commenced as of Friday 21 May 2010.

Introduction of a New Pouch Weight Standard - Simplified 16k/11k Matrix & Terrain Adjustments.
Should 'roll out' have happened by now? I have not heard anything mentioned about new pouch weights.
Suggest then PC that you read the above quoted LTB providing you are of course a member of the CWU.
Yes, I have that printed off and highlighted relevant parts ready to stuff under my lino's nose! Just wondered if roll out had commenced as we had not been informed of any changed within the DO.