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How are state pension qualifying years worked out

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I thought I'd post this for anyone wanting to know how we earn state pension qualifying years.
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I read with interest your article about how much you need to earn to get a qualifying year towards the state pension, and applaud your good advice - but is there another point to be borne in mind?
I attach a P60 that I generated from my firm's payroll software in which five months have £2,000 pay and seven months have just £1.
So although the gross pay is £10,007 and NI contributions have been generated, only £2,560 shows at the ‘lower earnings limit’.
The weekly paid seem to be the most vulnerable on this issue, and I wonder if you might point that out in another article.
People need to either register as unemployed or pay Class 3 National Insurance contributions. Miss a week and the year is lost - or am I missing something?
The building blocks of entitlement to the state pension are ‘qualifying years’ of National Insurance contributions.

Where people have a regular income every week of the year, the way in which a qualifying year is built up is pretty simple.

But in the increasingly common situation where people have fluctuating incomes, or perhaps periods when they are not earning at all, things get rather more complicated.

Indeed, under the current rules there are some people who pay no NICs at all during a year but still build up a ‘qualifying year’, whilst there are others who do pay NICs who may nonetheless not build up a qualifying year!

I hope I can clarify how the system works.

A crucial number in the system is the ‘lower earnings limit’.

This is currently £6,136 per year, or £512 per month (if you are paid monthly) or £118 per week (if you are paid weekly).

This is the earnings level at which your earnings start to count towards building up a ‘qualifying year’ (of which more below).

A second important number is the ‘primary threshold’ which is currently £8,632 per year, with corresponding monthly and weekly rates.

In terms of how much NICs you pay and what you get for them, there are three broad groups:

- Those who earn above the primary threshold in any given week or month: they have to pay NICs and these earnings count towards making the year a ‘qualifying year’;

- Those who earn between the lower earnings limit and the primary threshold: this group is ‘credited’ with NI contributions towards their NI record but do not have to actually pay NICs;

- Those who earn under the lower earnings limit – this group pays no NICs and gets no NI credits.

For a year of your working life to be a ‘qualifying year’ towards your state pension, you have to have paid (or been credited) with NI contributions on earnings equal to 52 times the weekly lower earnings limit.

As noted above, periods when you are earning below the lower earnings limit do not count towards this target.

But the good news is that weeks (or months) when you are earning more than the lower earnings limit help to make up for weeks (or months) when you were not earning (or earning below the LEL).

To give a simple example, suppose that you have a year in which you do no paid work for 26 weeks and then you do 26 weeks at an earnings level of £236 – double the lower earnings limit.

For the year as a whole, you have qualifying earnings of 52 times the LEL and this is therefore a qualifying year.

In the example given in the question, we can ignore the periods when the individual earned a token amount, and focus on the five months where pay was £2,000.

In each of those months, the pay was above the monthly LEL and therefore the full amount counts towards the annual target.

As five lots of £2,000 totals £10,000 for the year, and this is in excess of 52 times the weekly LEL (£6,136) this would count as a qualifying year.

From a National Insurance point of view there is therefore no need to sign on as unemployed for the ‘missing’ months and no need to pay voluntary NICs.
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Thank you for taking the time to post about the qualifying years for the state pension, it is really helpful.
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max49 wrote:Thank you for taking the time to post about the qualifying years for the state pension, it is really helpful.
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Hi Roberts, Thanks for providing this. Can you explain how you get to the £2000 per month. I know I'm missing something but not sure what ???

Thanks



To give a simple example, suppose that you have a year in which you do no paid work for 26 weeks and then you do 26 weeks at an earnings level of £236 – double the lower earnings limit.

For the year as a whole, you have qualifying earnings of 52 times the LEL and this is therefore a qualifying year.

In the example given in the question, we can ignore the periods when the individual earned a token amount, and focus on the five months where pay was £2,000.

In each of those months, the pay was above the monthly LEL and therefore the full amount counts towards the annual target.

As five lots of £2,000 totals £10,000 for the year, and this is in excess of 52 times the weekly LEL (£6,136) this would count as a qualifying year.
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My bad! I copied and pasted the answer, but not the question. :oops:

Here it is:
 I read with interest your article about how much you need to earn to get a qualifying year towards the state pension, and applaud your good advice - but is there another point to be borne in mind? 
I attach a P60 that I generated from my firm's payroll software in which five months have £2,000 pay and seven months have just £1.
So although the gross pay is £10,007 and NI contributions have been generated, only £2,560 shows at the ‘lower earnings limit’.
The weekly paid seem to be the most vulnerable on this issue, and I wonder if you might point that out in another article.
People need to either register as unemployed or pay Class 3 National Insurance contributions. Miss a week and the year is lost - or am I missing something?
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Thanks as always but isn't he contradicting what you have said.....

"Miss a week and you lose a year"..???
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With my State Pension quote I needed 3 more years from April this year. I assume I have already achieved the first of those years by now with NI contributions. The third and final year will only give me about 70p per week extra. As I intend to leave RM sooner rather later it obviously wouldn't be worth buying that last year. Or can you buy enough months to make up the difference? Though at 70 odd pence think I can live without it!
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Hawkey99 wrote:Thanks as always but isn't he contradicting what you have said.....

"Miss a week and you lose a year"..???
I haven't said anything!
I posted an answer to a question that was raised on the 'This Is Money' website, which explains why you only need to earn £6,240 per year(2020/21 rate) to get a qualifying year for the state pension.
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FAB wrote:With my State Pension quote I needed 3 more years from April this year. I assume I have already achieved the first of those years by now with NI contributions. The third and final year will only give me about 70p per week extra. As I intend to leave RM sooner rather later it obviously wouldn't be worth buying that last year. Or can you buy enough months to make up the difference? Though at 70 odd pence think I can live without it!
In practice most full time posties will only take a few months to earn enough to earn a qualifying year, due to the current £6,240 rate of the LEL.

I think you can buy missed credits by the week, so there would be no need to buy a whole year. As you say, in your case it's not really worth it for 70p per week anyway.
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So I meant when you posted what someone had said it sounded like you only had to earn a set amount of money over any period in the year.

Then the answer seems to have said about if you don't pay in a week you lose out............

So all Im asking is some clarity that it is just an annual amount which gives you the pension credit ?
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Hawkey99 wrote:So I meant when you posted what someone had said it sounded like you only had to earn a set amount of money over any period in the year.

Then the answer seems to have said about if you don't pay in a week you lose out............

So all Im asking is some clarity that it is just an annual amount which gives you the pension credit ?
My first post was the answer.
You pointed out the reference to £2,000 didn't really make sense.
I then posted the question.

As the article says, you only have to earn £6,240 per year(updated 2020/21 rates) to earn a qualifying year for the state pension.

*Original post now edited to include the question.
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