What would a Royal Mail insolvency mean for CDC?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

https://henrytapper.com/2023/03/30/what ... n-for-cdc/

Royal Mail bosses threaten to declare insolvency as pay talks near collapse
Talks with union over pay and working practices are on brink of collapse and special administration has been explored ; The Guardian

Delays with implementing Royal Mail’s CDC scheme.
The headline , which appeared late on Monday in the Guardian’s digital edition is alarming.

It’s five years since the pension deal between the Royal Mail’s principal union, the CWU and its management , was reached. The deal was that the Union recommended staff to recognize a new kind of non-guaranteed pension termed CDC, rather than continue with limited DB accrual (into a cash-balance plan) or into a workplace pension, then with Zurich, now with Scottish Widows.

The deal was supposed to usher in a new period of stability in industrial relations and a better pension scheme for all.

But much water has flowed under the bridge and despite huge amounts spent on getting regulations in place , CDC – as originally envisioned – has yet to be launched.

Just what a declaration of insolvency by the Royal Mail would mean to the current pension arrangements is hard to work out , but it looks like yet another reason for the implementation of the CDC plan to be deferred.

The DWP have recently closed its consultation on how CDC might be broadened in scope beyond the single employer whole of life variant that Royal Mail is looking to introduce, but enthusiasm for using the Pension Regulator’s CDC funding code is limited. In practice, CDC has become so regulated that most commercial master trusts are taking one look at the undertakings needed to comply with the Code and walking away.

A lost cohort of pension savers
The introduction of pension freedoms was supposed to usher innovation that would mean new types of pensions would be created to rival and supersede the annuity.

This hasn’t happened. The CDC Code has effectively stifled that innovation and sadly, the Royal Mail CDC scheme is now becoming a roadblock to progress. Until their scheme is up and running, other corporates are holding back from applying to the Code and news that Royal Mail’s covenant to meet its CDC obligations may be in danger, suggests that the road won’t be cleared any time soon.

In the meantime, hundreds of thousands of DC savers, Royal Mail DC savers among them, are waiting for something to turn up to help them turn their pots to pensions.

We do not know for sure what this cohort are doing with their pots but from what we can see from the FCA’s Retirement Income Study, most pots are being used to pay tax-free cash and little more, what drawdown that is going on, is being managed by IFAs or by DIY spenders establishing drawdown rates that are typically 8% of the capital available.

TPR does not collect data on what those with occupational DC pots are doing. Trustees are under no obligation to offer so much as the “investment pathways” available to those with personal pensions who do not take advice. The fear is that huge amounts of money are stored in schemes – often in de-risked assets – awaiting clarity on what to do next.

The current cohort of savers, with spendable pots, are “lost” and awaiting redirection while we sit in a policy vacuum.

The progress that was made in 2017 and 2018 which led to a new kind of pension scheme becoming available, has been painfully slow. It is to be hoped that it does not stall altogether as a result of Royal Mail’s covenant problems.

Meanwhile, the Government is seeing CDC’s poster-child , losing its allure. The future for CDC looks bleak without a re-think.

[renrag40]

OUR Czech "friend" now has 25% of the shares in Royal Mail..... he is now entitled to ask for a seat on the board. He has already let it be known that he was unhappy with the amount of pension contributions Royal Mail is paying into the current pension arrangements.
Does anyone seriously think that the proposed CDC scheme will start, if it ever starts at all, at the proposed employer contribution level?

[RobertT]

Personally I'd like to see CDC not only start, but succeed over years to come.
For the right company, it has the potential to provide it's employees with a much better outcome than an individual DC scheme.
Although with the influence of Daniel Kretinsky and the possibility of administration, it looks increasingly likely that company won't be RM.

Any decision to start CDC but with lower contribution levels, would obviously mean lower accrual rates from the proposed 1/80ths for the pension and 3/80ths for the lump sum, or else an even higher NRA. Both of which would make it more unattractive to many people.

RM's pension bill is quite large, with currently around £400 million going into the DBCBS and RMDCP. The contributions into CDC/Nest would be a bit higher, if it does happen.
If they can't afford CDC, then they can't afford the current schemes either!

You don't have to be the brain of Britain to realise pensions are a prime target for savings.
I've said it before on this forum – they could save around £300 million per year by putting us all in a DC scheme with the legal minimum contribution level!

[SpacePhoenix]

When did the required legislation to be able to implement CDC schemes finish going through parliament?

[RobertT]

When did the required legislation to be able to implement CDC schemes finish going through parliament?

You asked a very similar question just last week, which was answered:
viewtopic.php?p=1042493#p1042493

Official RM info on the current progress of CDC can be found here: https://www.myroyalmail.com/collective-plan