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mail centre supernumerays

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marty99
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mail centre supernumerays

Post by marty99 »

has anyone heard anymore on this as it has gone very quiet?
SpacePhoenix
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Re: mail centre supernumerays

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I doubt anything will be heard about this till after the new year
denhamhoop
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Re: mail centre supernumerays

Post by denhamhoop »

My best theory is nothing will happen until the Network changes then for myself and all other Supernumeraries then Royal Mail will try and assist us out the door
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Re: mail centre supernumerays

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Called them all in the office at our mail centre last week and offered them all VR. Most are taking it. They are waiting for a date now.
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Re: mail centre supernumerays

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wolfman wrote:
26 Nov 2023, 08:58
Called them all in the office at our mail centre last week and offered them all VR. Most are taking it. They are waiting for a date now.
Typically how many casuals each shift (excluding Xmas Pressure)?
wolfman
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Not sure about other shifts but ours have between none & 10 per night I would say, without Xmas pressure.
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Re: mail centre supernumerays

Post by mwalker88 »

wolfman wrote:
26 Nov 2023, 08:58
Called them all in the office at our mail centre last week and offered them all VR. Most are taking it. They are waiting for a date now.
I would've bitten their hand off if I was offered VR from Delivery. Every single one of them should take it.
I genuinely wonder why they weren't offered a move to Delivery as another option.
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Re: mail centre supernumerays

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How are staff designated as 'supernumary'. Is it on seniority or do managers choose people, and if so, on what basis?
N|M
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baldrick wrote:
06 Dec 2023, 12:14
How are staff designated as 'supernumary'. Is it on seniority or do managers choose people, and if so, on what basis?
I thought they came supernumary if the duty they were on was no longer needed, but saying that am sure that used to be called displaced.
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N|M wrote:
06 Dec 2023, 17:12
baldrick wrote:
06 Dec 2023, 12:14
How are staff designated as 'supernumary'. Is it on seniority or do managers choose people, and if so, on what basis?
I thought they came supernumary if the duty they were on was no longer needed, but saying that am sure that used to be called displaced.
If they didn't choose a duty during the resign or if there was no more duties left in the resign by the time they were reached, they were made supernumerary
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Post by baldrick »

OK thanks for the explanation guys. I suppose that means it is mostly on seniority if there aren't any duties left when it is their turn to sign.
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Re: mail centre supernumerays

Post by midegarelu »

At the MC I previously worked at they dropped a lot of duties that were not "normal".

All the 3 and 4 day duties went because they were fixated on making all duties the same.

Theses duties were mostly held by senior men/women with upwards of 30 years service!

Before I retired most of the supernumarys had taken the 5 day duties that had been offered.
"We employ you so we can sack you"
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Re: mail centre supernumerays

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midegarelu wrote:
07 Dec 2023, 19:25
At the MC I previously worked at they dropped a lot of duties that were not "normal".

All the 3 and 4 day duties went because they were fixated on making all duties the same.

Theses duties were mostly held by senior men/women with upwards of 30 years service!

Before I retired most of the supernumarys had taken the 5 day duties that had been offered.
We still have a few staff on 3 and 4 night duties. Think it's only a matter of time before they're not given any choice but to move over to 5 night duties
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Re: mail centre supernumerays

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
07 Dec 2023, 19:49
midegarelu wrote:
07 Dec 2023, 19:25
At the MC I previously worked at they dropped a lot of duties that were not "normal".

All the 3 and 4 day duties went because they were fixated on making all duties the same.

Theses duties were mostly held by senior men/women with upwards of 30 years service!

Before I retired most of the supernumarys had taken the 5 day duties that had been offered.
We still have a few staff on 3 and 4 night duties. Think it's only a matter of time before they're not given any choice but to move over to 5 night duties
Sounds about right for this company these days, they're hellbent on eroding anything that's attractive about the job like those nice 3 and 4 day attendance patterns.
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Re: mail centre supernumerays

Post by baldrick »

Another question. Does this apply to only full time staff, or part time also?
Are people who were on mainly late and night duties (the majority in MCs) expected to reorganise their lives and go on early duties in Deliveries?