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Superhubs

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Postee2
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Just how busy are the superhubs at Warrington and Northampton. How are they coping. Are they able to take a lot more mail ?
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I think the one in the Midlands is wait for the supernumerary issue to be sorted 1st before they start taking the mail from the south. No point taking mail now have have some folk l with nothing to do in mail centres
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The Midlands hub isn’t coping very well at all. A lot of the cross docking operation is moving back to NDC next week. I hear that on Wednesday the hub is swapping from the current Isotrak system to the BAT tracking system, I’m sure it will be a seamless transition.
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Just like the PSM's when they first arrived alot of issues with it and now look can take in anything.

I got a feeling these superhubs machine are alot better processing wise then they are letting on. Most likely leave it in 2nd gear until they have sorted out the logistics and then take it to 5th gear.
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Post by SpacePhoenix »

DX wrote:
17 Sep 2023, 20:25
Just like the PSM's when they first arrived alot of issues with it and now look can take in anything.

I got a feeling these superhubs machine are alot better processing wise then they are letting on. Most likely leave it in 2nd gear until they have sorted out the logistics and then take it to 5th gear.
My gut feeling is that when they do take it into 5th gear, just about every MC will lose their 2C and T48 to the hubs. If that happens then that will mean early shifts in MCs will be gone, they'll just move some staff around to cover the early DSA
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i work at the nwsh.....dont expect too much more from it....
they are now seeing 30,000 + figures an hour more regularly,,,by that i mean over a 12 hr shift we may get 3 or 4 possibly 5 different hours were 30.000 plus items go through the machine the rest of the hours it approx 25....or 26...ot 27,000 items per hour

they tell u they have a sort plan of approx 260,000 items a shift and the next day its about there or within a few thousand either side.

i honestly dont think the nwsh is big enough....there's not a lot of spare room or extra room for anything else to be put in there or added.
ive no idea about mail...does that mean letters? or parcels if it is letters i reckon there's no room for any machines.

faster....if you mean can the belts go quicker.....u wanna see the parcels that get moved of the belt on corners and alike...there are safety nets everywhere because parcels dont stay on the belt.....so if they sped it up im pretty sure parcles would be everywhere except on the belt....lol

there are a couple of trailers a ay that have to move the none conveyable items to a local centre up in preston i think......anything less than 5mm thick doesnt get read going through........anything round or tubes cant go through....

engineers did confirm to us it was tested with lovely square boxes........soooo anything else and its not brilliant
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centenaryman wrote:
18 Sep 2023, 16:52
i work at the nwsh.....dont expect too much more from it....
they are now seeing 30,000 + figures an hour more regularly,,,by that i mean over a 12 hr shift we may get 3 or 4 possibly 5 different hours were 30.000 plus items go through the machine the rest of the hours it approx 25....or 26...ot 27,000 items per hour

they tell u they have a sort plan of approx 260,000 items a shift and the next day its about there or within a few thousand either side.

i honestly dont think the nwsh is big enough....there's not a lot of spare room or extra room for anything else to be put in there or added.
ive no idea about mail...does that mean letters? or parcels if it is letters i reckon there's no room for any machines.

faster....if you mean can the belts go quicker.....u wanna see the parcels that get moved of the belt on corners and alike...there are safety nets everywhere because parcels dont stay on the belt.....so if they sped it up im pretty sure parcles would be everywhere except on the belt....lol

there are a couple of trailers a ay that have to move the none conveyable items to a local centre up in preston i think......anything less than 5mm thick doesnt get read going through........anything round or tubes cant go through....

engineers did confirm to us it was tested with lovely square boxes........soooo anything else and its not brilliant
Great info thanks very much.
Does anybody have any similar info about the Northampton Super Hub ?
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Post by bananarama1 »

Midlands SH is slow. The sorters can't cope, so we're loading at a ridiculously slow pace, spending half of our time stood, parcel in hand, waiting to add them to the belts. Last shift I worked we were told that they'd processed 300,000 the day before (90,000 per hour is the eventual target I believe). I think they're supposed to be adding more lines/tippers in, but I can't see the machine coping further up. It can manage ok with boxes, but any poly bags mess things up - on induct I spend half of my time unclogging bags.
It could do with a tipper line/hopper and belt, without the tipper contraption because we spend half of our time decanting parcels into sleeved yorks because they arrive overweight or on pallets, or in yorks unsuitable for tipping (this is where the white sleeves come in - easiest to tip) - we could drop them into a hopper rather than consolidating. Depalletisation has pallet lifts that we aren't allowed to use. And it can't process anything too small (no letters), or that rolls, or contains liquids (Amazon wine, etc), or granular items (cat litter, dog food, etc), so lots gets sent to the manual line or maybe up the road to NDC. There are parcels stuck under belts all over the place. I'm sure it will improve with time, but having been there several months I'm not seeing it yet. It's seemingly overstaffed so far too, with a lot of people being paid to stand around chatting. Induct staff were trained to do several areas of induct and were told that they'd be rotated, but it seems that training on tippers will go to waste as a lot will forget before they're actually allowed near the things. Can't comment on other areas.
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Post by ConeHater »

The yard control system at MSH is internet based, so when that goes down nothing happens - no trailers in yard shunted on/off bays, nothing enters the site, nothing leaves. I heard that the internet was lost at least four times tonight, but no plans to upgrade it !
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Sounds like the benefits of this superhub modernisation are endless. :arrrghhh

Causing misery to the majority of the hundreds of thousands of real RM employees within Delivery/Mail Centres is just a bonus. :d'oh!

Absolute disgrace of a company, I'm astonished at how far they have fallen since Moya. Royal Mail/GLS as a PLC deserve to go under.
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mwalker88 wrote:
03 Nov 2023, 15:23
Sounds like the benefits of this superhub modernisation are endless. :arrrghhh

Causing misery to the majority of the hundreds of thousands of real RM employees within Delivery/Mail Centres is just a bonus. :d'oh!

Absolute disgrace of a company, I'm astonished at how far they have fallen since Moya. Royal Mail/GLS as a PLC deserve to go under.
100%

They are a complete waste of money and a huge waste of time and resources

We have the MC's already and added PSM's to many now - that was more than enough

Superhubs are just an excuse to close MC's and lose staff