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[jmcg]

Royal Mail did attempt to buy a building in Luton earlier this year…

[denhamhoop]

Royal Mail did attempt to buy a building in Luton earlier this year…

Wonder if it's the old Car Plant because before HCN was created they tried to buy it but were refused planning permission by the Council because not enough new "local" jobs were being made

[rainbowwarrior72]

Can't see that being true. I believe that it's only been open for less than 10 years and was purpose built. Think the old Milton Keynes MC was one of those merged into HCN so it would be very strange for it to move back.

If it is true then maybe RM don't own it and are being turfed out by whoever does own it. Wonder if the MCs surrounding the area covered by HCN could handle HCN's work being split between them

East London MC at Bromley By Bow was shut down and work moved to Romford & The Mount in 2012 as part of the London Review and that was opened in 02/03 so anything is possible mainly because things change. MK went up to South Midlands MC but LU was moved down to Watford MC a couple of years before they moved to HCN in Hemel in 2010/11. But I have heard that MK maybe moved down to the HCN postcodes area a few years ago and I have heard that when NDC moves to their new site around the corner there are plans for South Midlands MC to move upto the current NDC site.

RM tend to try and lease sites but after being stung a few times by greedy landlords u would think they would change tack and own the sites.

[ConeHater]

“But I have heard that MK maybe moved down to the HCN postcodes area a few years ago and I have heard that when NDC moves to their new site around the corner there are plans for South Midlands MC to move upto the current NDC site.”

The NDC Landlords are keen for Royal Mail to move to new site, another business has been and measured up the site and are waiting to move in ASAP. As soon as the yard is marked out and building basics fitted there’s no reason why the current operation at NDC can’t move to the new site. Parcel machinery has been arriving for some weeks but the building is large enough to allow NDC to operate at one end whilst they fit out the other. Maybe it’ll make the powers that be realise that what they’ve designed is still not adequate !

[SpacePhoenix]

A massive re-jig of what MC covers what postcode areas to come?

[paulus103]

Loads of mail going to be sent to NW Parcel hub.
Going to hit MC's hard so I imagine there will be a re-jig I'd have thought.

[Lockardian]

Loads of mail going to be sent to NW Parcel hub.
Going to hit MC's hard so I imagine there will be a re-jig I'd have thought.

Are these parcel hubs for inward sort or outward sort, or both? If inward, do they despatch directly to DOs or to the MCs for cross-docking? I can’t see how this mail could hit the DOs, or the more “distant” MCs, in time.

[wallan]

Loads of mail going to be sent to NW Parcel hub.
Going to hit MC's hard so I imagine there will be a re-jig I'd have thought.

Are these parcel hubs for inward sort or outward sort, or both? If inward, do they despatch directly to DOs or to the MCs for cross-docking? I can’t see how this mail could hit the DOs, or the more “distant” MCs, in time.

Inward & Outward
Think the Orriginal plan was ,both Hubs Sort to the 400 (ish ) L A T Offices , cross decking at the Inward M C , Who Knows what the Plan is Now

[SpacePhoenix]

Makes me wonder why RM are installing PSMs in MCs as if a lot of parcels are gong to be sorted at the parcel hubs, it kinda makes it a waste of time and money having PSMs in MCs. A PSM isn't needed for a basic 4 way split (1 for intra and 1 each for the parcel hubs).

Either RM will need to make final dispatch times later or for a good few MCs this mail will simply fail as it won't make the final runs to the DOs (and that's assuming that there'll be capacity every night on the final runs to DOs)

[wallan]

Makes me wonder why RM are installing PSMs in MCs as if a lot of parcels are gong to be sorted at the parcel hubs, it kinda makes it a waste of time and money having PSMs in MCs. A PSM isn't needed for a basic 4 way split (1 for intra and 1 each for the parcel hubs).

Either RM will need to make final dispatch times later or for a good few MCs this mail will simply fail as it won't make the final runs to the DOs (and that's assuming that there'll be capacity every night on the final runs to DOs)

Thought the idea was any thing Shoe Box Size or Over went unsorted to Daventry or Warrington for Processing

[SpacePhoenix]

Makes me wonder why RM are installing PSMs in MCs as if a lot of parcels are gong to be sorted at the parcel hubs, it kinda makes it a waste of time and money having PSMs in MCs. A PSM isn't needed for a basic 4 way split (1 for intra and 1 each for the parcel hubs).

Either RM will need to make final dispatch times later or for a good few MCs this mail will simply fail as it won't make the final runs to the DOs (and that's assuming that there'll be capacity every night on the final runs to DOs)

Thought the idea was any thing Shoe Box Size or Over went unsorted to Daventry or Warrington for Processing

That won't work. Most of the yorks of "large" are a right mix of small and large, Tracked and non-Tracked mixed together. You'll sometimes get the odd SD mixed in as well. They'll need to be able to handle all that at the hubs

[wallan]

Makes me wonder why RM are installing PSMs in MCs as if a lot of parcels are gong to be sorted at the parcel hubs, it kinda makes it a waste of time and money having PSMs in MCs. A PSM isn't needed for a basic 4 way split (1 for intra and 1 each for the parcel hubs).

Either RM will need to make final dispatch times later or for a good few MCs this mail will simply fail as it won't make the final runs to the DOs (and that's assuming that there'll be capacity every night on the final runs to DOs)

Thought the idea was any thing Shoe Box Size or Over went unsorted to Daventry or Warrington for Processing

That won't work. Most of the yorks of "large" are a right mix of small and large, Tracked and non-Tracked mixed together. You'll sometimes get the odd SD mixed in as well. They'll need to be able to handle all that at the hubs

Some one has The Plan , just have to wait & see if it Works

[paulus103]

Makes me wonder why RM are installing PSMs in MCs as if a lot of parcels are gong to be sorted at the parcel hubs, it kinda makes it a waste of time and money having PSMs in MCs. A PSM isn't needed for a basic 4 way split (1 for intra and 1 each for the parcel hubs).

Either RM will need to make final dispatch times later or for a good few MCs this mail will simply fail as it won't make the final runs to the DOs (and that's assuming that there'll be capacity every night on the final runs to DOs)

Yeah, I wondered about this.
I know there is a cut-off point for Tracked24 e.g mail arriving at a certain time is done by my mc earlier by the hub.
I can't see how it will work myself.

[paulus103]

Makes me wonder why RM are installing PSMs in MCs as if a lot of parcels are gong to be sorted at the parcel hubs, it kinda makes it a waste of time and money having PSMs in MCs. A PSM isn't needed for a basic 4 way split (1 for intra and 1 each for the parcel hubs).

Either RM will need to make final dispatch times later or for a good few MCs this mail will simply fail as it won't make the final runs to the DOs (and that's assuming that there'll be capacity every night on the final runs to DOs)

Thought the idea was any thing Shoe Box Size or Over went unsorted to Daventry or Warrington for Processing

That won't work. Most of the yorks of "large" are a right mix of small and large, Tracked and non-Tracked mixed together. You'll sometimes get the odd SD mixed in as well. They'll need to be able to handle all that at the hubs

my mail centre is losing all their heavy and large - despite the fact that the psm can do most of it. Not all in one go as understand it will be spread over 6-12 months. My worry is that we will lose the T48 smalls as well :(
If we do that it will kill 1 shift entirely.

[SpacePhoenix]

Makes me wonder why RM are installing PSMs in MCs as if a lot of parcels are gong to be sorted at the parcel hubs, it kinda makes it a waste of time and money having PSMs in MCs. A PSM isn't needed for a basic 4 way split (1 for intra and 1 each for the parcel hubs).

Either RM will need to make final dispatch times later or for a good few MCs this mail will simply fail as it won't make the final runs to the DOs (and that's assuming that there'll be capacity every night on the final runs to DOs)

Thought the idea was any thing Shoe Box Size or Over went unsorted to Daventry or Warrington for Processing

That won't work. Most of the yorks of "large" are a right mix of small and large, Tracked and non-Tracked mixed together. You'll sometimes get the odd SD mixed in as well. They'll need to be able to handle all that at the hubs

my mail centre is losing all their heavy and large - despite the fact that the psm can do most of it. Not all in one go as understand it will be spread over 6-12 months. My worry is that we will lose the T48 smalls as well :(
If we do that it will kill 1 shift entirely.

I wonder what they'll do at the hubs with all the smalls that end up in the yorks sent to them. Depending on travel time they might be forced to process them smalls as we won't have the time to process it by the time it arrives at the MC. I'm assuming that when the lorry arrives from the hub, the lorry will be unloaded and the yorks wheeled straight to the bays for each DO run. They'll need to arrive at the MC in time for our final dispatch or the DOs will have to send vans to collect it. Either that or it'll fail