MANAGERS REWARDED £100 AND 1 DAY A/L FOR STRIKE COVER !!!!

[onlyanother30years]

During the recent industrial action by crown office staff many managers worked on the counters of striking offices so they remained open , it is now rumoured that as a reward the managers have each been given £100 to spend on a family day out with a extra days annual leave thrown in so they can take the family on a day out.

ANY MANAGERS OUT THERE WITH THE TRUTH AS THIS CANNOT BE TRUE, CAN IT ???

[squeaky]

Yes it is true - cos acting BM passed round all the emails by mistake - was sent about 2 weeks ago - but we're getting used to being treated like this are we not? must want us all to leave in disgust so they don't have to pay redundancy

[Rizla]

At the Crown Office where I clear the mail very day, I was told by one of the counter staff that the manager had received this "reward" even though the staff had chosen NOT to go on strike!!!

[squeaky]

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[bigjames]

During the recent industrial action by crown office staff many managers worked on the counters of striking offices so they remained open , it is now rumoured that as a reward the managers have each been given £100 to spend on a family day out with a extra days annual leave thrown in so they can take the family on a day out.

ANY MANAGERS OUT THERE WITH THE TRUTH AS THIS CANNOT BE TRUE, CAN IT ???

I am surprised it took so long for this to get on this forum, but it is true. It is, however, worth bearing in mind that it should have only been offered to managers who put themselves out to keep offices open, as it it did not happen in every case. Say what you like about us, but we also have a job to do and our union was/is not involved in the dispute. It was made clear to us that we would have to work extra hours to keep offices open, and we are not able to claim overtime as a general rule. I, for one, worked 3 straight 6-day weeks, 8am to 6pm because of staff shortages and strike action, and I did not receive the letter offering the £100 and extra day off, so go figure. It is easy to make capital out of genuine gestures, but keep it in context, it was supposed to be recognition for hard work under difficult circumstances, and using myself as an example, it definitely did not go to everyone.

[fedup postie]

Sorry but that Sucks. I on many occasions have put myself out for this company and what gratitude to I get! Example, last Christmas, an Artic came in late. It was my home time but the manager was asking if people would stay to help make sure the mail got through. I could have said sorry, I have to go home but I stayed and worked like a nutter to get the mail processed. He asked me to stay an hour but at the end of the hour, the work was still not finished and so he asked me to stay a little longer. I did. One of the other people asked, how much are we getting paid for it? The manager replied, you get paid for what you do!

He did not pay us any extra or give us any extra "Gratitude" and quite frankly his attitude stunk. Had it not been for us staying the mail would not have gone anywhere.

It always seems to be that they only give gratitude to managers and not to post people who "Go the extra mile" every day etc for this business. Perhaps that is where they are going wrong. The goodwill is being erroded from this company and it is down to the attitude of management.

If the same happens this Christmas, do you think I will be stopping to help out?????????

[bigjames]

Sorry but that Sucks. I on many occasions have put myself out for this company and what gratitude to I get! Example, last Christmas, an Artic came in late. It was my home time but the manager was asking if people would stay to help make sure the mail got through. I could have said sorry, I have to go home but I stayed and worked like a nutter to get the mail processed. He asked me to stay an hour but at the end of the hour, the work was still not finished and so he asked me to stay a little longer. I did. One of the other people asked, how much are we getting paid for it? The manager replied, you get paid for what you do!

He did not pay us any extra or give us any extra "Gratitude" and quite frankly his attitude stunk. Had it not been for us staying the mail would not have gone anywhere.

It always seems to be that they only give gratitude to managers and not to post people who "Go the extra mile" every day etc for this business. Perhaps that is where they are going wrong. The goodwill is being erroded from this company and it is down to the attitude of management.

If the same happens this Christmas, do you think I will be stopping to help out?????????

I can't speak for Royal Mail, as I work for POL, but looking from the outside it would appear that there is an awful lot wrong with the way some of your managers operate. In my office if people do extra they get rewarded, but I only really have time off and/or overtime to reward people with. If I go 'the extra mile' how do I get rewarded? usually with nothing as I can't claim docket, so what is the answer? I can claim Time Off In Lieu (TOIL), and if I don't get the time back within 16 weeks I am entitled to the docket, but who wants to wait for 16 weeks? You say that gratitude only goes to managers, that isn't the case where I work, I thank my team when they deserve it, but when a manager gets anything over and above so much is made of it, it is no wonder that few people want promotion any more, and a 'them and us' situation perpetuates.

[fedup postie]

Bigjames, I'm glad to hear you reward your staff and tell them when they have done a good job. That goes a long way.
If people are treated right, they are more likley to help out at difficult times. It also boosts morall within the company but when you get the likes of Many managers within RM, it sends the morall through the floor and in the end affects the job we do.

Keep up the good work.

[onlyanother30years]

Everyone within the business should receive recognition for a job well done, but for managers to receive a financial reward for undermining the strike actions of counter colleagues is totally inappropriate and will only cause resentment and encourage the us and them environment.

[bigjames]

Everyone within the business should receive recognition for a job well done, but for managers to receive a financial reward for undermining the strike actions of counter colleagues is totally inappropriate and will only cause resentment and encourage the us and them environment.

Put like that it is hard to disagree.

Perhaps the reward should have been just payment for the extra done, rather than something over and above. It would be remiss of the business not to recognise the work we Counter Managers put in keeping our offices open, and perhaps the offer should have been made once the pay deal was sorted, rather than give the CWU more ammunition to use in the dispute.

[Customer]

During the recent industrial action by crown office staff many managers worked on the counters of striking offices so they remained open , it is now rumoured that as a reward the managers have each been given £100 to spend on a family day out with a extra days annual leave thrown in so they can take the family on a day out.

ANY MANAGERS OUT THERE WITH THE TRUTH AS THIS CANNOT BE TRUE, CAN IT ???

Seems fair

[fedup postie]

During the recent industrial action by crown office staff many managers worked on the counters of striking offices so they remained open , it is now rumoured that as a reward the managers have each been given £100 to spend on a family day out with a extra days annual leave thrown in so they can take the family on a day out.

ANY MANAGERS OUT THERE WITH THE TRUTH AS THIS CANNOT BE TRUE, CAN IT ???

Seems fair

Customer, I appreciate you may feel that this is fair but you have to realise that this payment was only made to Managers and not to people who went in during the strikes etc. You could argue they were only doing thier job but the fact is that so was the manager. Many people have worked hard for the employer over the years and only been paid for the work they do so why should a manager be paid over and above as they already receive a huge bonus anyway.

[IWW Fellow Worker]

During the recent industrial action by crown office staff many managers worked on the counters of striking offices so they remained open , it is now rumoured that as a reward the managers have each been given £100 to spend on a family day out with a extra days annual leave thrown in so they can take the family on a day out.

ANY MANAGERS OUT THERE WITH THE TRUTH AS THIS CANNOT BE TRUE, CAN IT ???

Seems fair

What a nugget!

[bigjames]

During the recent industrial action by crown office staff many managers worked on the counters of striking offices so they remained open , it is now rumoured that as a reward the managers have each been given £100 to spend on a family day out with a extra days annual leave thrown in so they can take the family on a day out.

ANY MANAGERS OUT THERE WITH THE TRUTH AS THIS CANNOT BE TRUE, CAN IT ???

Seems fair

Customer, I appreciate you may feel that this is fair but you have to realise that this payment was only made to Managers and not to people who went in during the strikes etc. You could argue they were only doing thier job but the fact is that so was the manager. Many people have worked hard for the employer over the years and only been paid for the work they do so why should a manager be paid over and above as they already receive a huge bonus anyway.

I think that you may be guilty of judging POL's managers by the standards of the managers on the Royal Mail side of the business. Addressing your last point first, our bonus is not huge, far from it. Mine is calculated on how much my team manage to sell over the course of the year, and if we hit 95%+ I could get some money. My team, however, are paid a fixed amount for each item they sell of the focus products into a bonus pot, which is divided up at the end of each quarter. For each of the last 6 quarters every single member of my team has been paid a bonus, my 'huge' bonus over the same period has been precisely £0! I am also paid a bonus based on my PDR score, but as my score was low because we didn't hit our targets! I would hardly call the £250 I got 'huge' but I guess it is a matter of opinion. Any manager who did extra work during the strike action should be paid at least for the work they did. Whether or not we should get extra is a matter for debate, but in the same way that other grades get paid for the work they do, we should have at least been paid docket for our extra hours.
You are correct in stating that staff who worked during the strikes were doing their jobs, but incorrect when stating that so where the managers. During the strike action you will find that managers not only did their own jobs, but also those of the PO's, RA's and CSA's who went on strike. It is not part of my job to serve on the counter, in the Postshop or on the Bureau for hours on end, occasionally yes, but not days at a time. If it were my job to do that, it would have been unlikely that the CWU would have made so much capital about the fact that managers were 'playing at Post Offices' as they put it, during the dispute.

[fedup postie]

Point taken, Post office counter managers and Royal Mail Managers are different. In respects of bonus payments at least.

I do agree that you should have been paid for the hours you worked. I do not disagree with that. So If I have read what you write correctly, when you worked to cover strike action, you did not get paid anything for attending your place of work?

If that is the case, yes you should have been paid, if however you got paid for the hours you were there then wether you were serving on the counter or tapping paper work up in the back office, you got paid for doing a job.

Sorry if we disagree on that one but there we go. If you ask a person in your branch to do a different job to what they normally do, do you pay them docket on top of their normal wage even if they do not work any extra hours?