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labour mp shaft us again

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labour mp shaft us again

Post by peedofpostie »

saw a clip in local paper that says the scumy labour party have again voted to close thousands of post offices over the country not 1 voted against it so when they come crawling at xmas we should tell them to sling thier hooks :evil/mad
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Re: labour mp shaft us again

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peedofpostie wrote:saw a clip in local paper that says the scumy labour party have again voted to close thousands of post offices over the country not 1 voted against it so when they come crawling at xmas we should tell them to sling thier hooks :evil/mad
Sounds good to me friend :Very Happy
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Post by DGP1 »

You have to remember that most MP's are in it for themselves and so with something like PO closures they will vote along with the party whip for fear of losing their chance of promotion.

Maybe we need a better form of election like some sort of British Bulldog at Wembly Stadium with all the prospective MP's standing at one end and a handful of others in the middle (lets start with us posties) and the last 500 get the seats (and all the other get the crap kicked out of them :Very Happy )
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Post by axeman »

you don't have to wait that long until local elections ? then it will be time to drag your feet delivering the election material :nana :nana
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Re: labour mp shaft us again

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johnnypick wrote:
peedofpostie wrote:saw a clip in local paper that says the scumy labour party have again voted to close thousands of post offices over the country not 1 voted against it so when they come crawling at xmas we should tell them to sling thier hooks :evil/mad
Sounds good to me friend :Very Happy
You can count on me too, just go,s to show how,s running the Post office if that shower wants Bill & Ben in their back pocket there must have been a few good back handers eh .
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Re: labour mp shaft us again: Big Cheques in the post

Post by norbert »

alangate wrote:
johnnypick wrote:
peedofpostie wrote:saw a clip in local paper that says the scumy labour party have again voted to close thousands of post offices over the country not 1 voted against it so when they come crawling at xmas we should tell them to sling thier hooks :evil/mad
Sounds good to me friend :Very Happy
You can count on me too, just go,s to show how,s running the Post office if that shower wants Bill & Ben in their back pocket there must have been a few good back handers eh .
There certainly is a dodgy New Labour Agenda !

If people are wondering where this ruthlessly commercial approach to Britain's Post Offices and RM and with it the massive slash and burn programme came from they should look no further than New Labour's Shareholder Executive , announced by Gordon Brown in 2002 with the task to "better fulfil ( the government's ) role of shareholder " of 25 publicly owned companies like ROYAL MAIL .

It's target , on which the bosses bonuses depended was to increase the value of the six largest companies by £1 billion by 2007 .

Out went any notion that public corporations were also there to provide a public service . The men brought in for the job , first led by ex CSFB investment banker Richard Gillingwater and now by former Deutsche Bank analyst Stephen Lovegrove , duly hit the target .

This was achieved largely by "creatively " boosting the financial ( if not service ) results by installing "Senior Management " , including Chief Executive Adam Crozier , on multi million bonuses , without penalty for service shortcomings .

New Labour Minister Stephen Byers saw the CWU as obstacle in the way of" better fulfillment of the government's role of shareholder" so ex ASDA chairman Alan Leighton with his ex parent company Walmart experience of union busting was brought in to better fulfill that role . It's not difficult to see why Brown threatened the CWU DGS Dave Ward during the final dispute negotiations either .

Unsurprisingly , under Crozier and Co , closures ,deliberately orchestrated disputes and redundancies have become the order of the day .

Not only do the Shareholder Executive have a financial interest in slashing and worsening postal services , they are responsible for the advice ministers get on the Post Office generally , somewhat compromising the supposedly neutral traditions of the civil service .

Small wonder the result was a sweeping programme to close 2500 post offices and a downgrading of the then existing delivery service judged by the suits as surplus to requirements.

When Commons Public Accounts Committee Chairman Edward Leigh MP asked the then Shareholder Executive boss Martin Bryant last year if he was responsible for" trailing a blaze of destruction across my constituency and the Post Office ", Bryant replied " I could not possibly answer that Sir " .

A correct answer would have been a simple yes , though ultimate responsibility lies with now unelected PM Gordon Brown who decided six years ago that the City Bankers should be brought in to put the squeeze on public companies .

City people like Leighton & Crozier are waiting in the wings to take the government to the cleaners but there will be no attempt to clip their wings from New Labour's bungling Ministers that Brown has no control over and his army of civil servants .
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Re: labour mp shaft us again: Big Cheques in the post

Post by alangate »

norbert wrote:
alangate wrote:
johnnypick wrote:
peedofpostie wrote:saw a clip in local paper that says the scumy labour party have again voted to close thousands of post offices over the country not 1 voted against it so when they come crawling at xmas we should tell them to sling thier hooks :evil/mad
Sounds good to me friend :Very Happy
You can count on me too, just go,s to show how,s running the Post office if that shower wants Bill & Ben in their back pocket there must have been a few good back handers eh .
There certainly is a dodgy New Labour Agenda !

If people are wondering where this ruthlessly commercial approach to Britain's Post Offices and RM and with it the massive slash and burn programme came from they should look no further than New Labour's Shareholder Executive , announced by Gordon Brown in 2002 with the task to "better fulfil ( the government's ) role of shareholder " of 25 publicly owned companies like ROYAL MAIL .

It's target , on which the bosses bonuses depended was to increase the value of the six largest companies by £1 billion by 2007 .

Out went any notion that public corporations were also there to provide a public service . The men brought in for the job , first led by ex CSFB investment banker Richard Gillingwater and now by former Deutsche Bank analyst Stephen Lovegrove , duly hit the target .

This was achieved largely by "creatively " boosting the financial ( if not service ) results by installing "Senior Management " , including Chief Executive Adam Crozier , on multi million bonuses , without penalty for service shortcomings .

New Labour Minister Stephen Byers saw the CWU as obstacle in the way of" better fulfillment of the government's role of shareholder" so ex ASDA chairman Alan Leighton with his ex parent company Walmart experience of union busting was brought in to better fulfill that role . It's not difficult to see why Brown threatened the CWU DGS Dave Ward during the final dispute negotiations either .

Unsurprisingly , under Crozier and Co , closures ,deliberately orchestrated disputes and redundancies have become the order of the day .

Not only do the Shareholder Executive have a financial interest in slashing and worsening postal services , they are responsible for the advice ministers get on the Post Office generally , somewhat compromising the supposedly neutral traditions of the civil service .

Small wonder the result was a sweeping programme to close 2500 post offices and a downgrading of the then existing delivery service judged by the suits as surplus to requirements.

When Commons Public Accounts Committee Chairman Edward Leigh MP asked the then Shareholder Executive boss Martin Bryant last year if he was responsible for" trailing a blaze of destruction across my constituency and the Post Office ", Bryant replied " I could not possibly answer that Sir " .

A correct answer would have been a simple yes , though ultimate responsibility lies with now unelected PM Gordon Brown who decided six years ago that the City Bankers should be brought in to put the squeeze on public companies .

City people like Leighton & Crozier are waiting in the wings to take the government to the cleaners but there will be no attempt to clip their wings from New Labour's bungling Ministers that Brown has no control over and his army of civil servants .
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Thanks for that Norbert did,nt know all that.
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Post by lazyjack »

This goverment is an absolute shambles :evil/mad Read the other day that the french have now moved into britain so thats more competition as if we ever needed it, but the funny thing is we cant move into france if we so decided, Whats goin on here??????????????????? :mad
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Post by norbert »

lazyjack wrote:This goverment is an absolute shambles :evil/mad Read the other day that the french have now moved into britain so thats more competition as if we ever needed it, but the funny thing is we cant move into france if we so decided, Whats goin on here??????????????????? :mad
Postcon think they are doing RM a favour by doing all this as they think it forces RM to be more efficent and to put it's house in order , this is stuff from the Thatcherite 80's , starve something nearly to death so it'll become leaner and efficent , unfortunately it's not quite that simple .
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Post by baldrick »

Postcon's brief was also from the Government which is to force RM to become more 'profitable'.
This and the Shareholder Executive's brief to increase the 'value' of RM can only have one
ultimate objective - to make RM ripe for privatisation.
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Post by pinstripe »

baldrick wrote:Postcon's brief was also from the Government which is to force RM to become more 'profitable'.
This and the Shareholder Executive's brief to increase the 'value' of RM can only have one
ultimate objective - to make RM ripe for privatisation.
Baldrick you'd better be careful, with an elemental deduction like that you may have to change your name to Sherlock Holmes. :dance

Dress it up any way they like, I agree with you that is their objective. I don't think there are any more National companies left, unless they are going to privatise the Inland Revenue.
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Post by DGP1 »

pinstripe wrote:
baldrick wrote:Postcon's brief was also from the Government which is to force RM to become more 'profitable'.
This and the Shareholder Executive's brief to increase the 'value' of RM can only have one
ultimate objective - to make RM ripe for privatisation.
Baldrick you'd better be careful, with an elemental deduction like that you may have to change your name to Sherlock Holmes. :dance

Dress it up any way they like, I agree with you that is their objective. I don't think there are any more National companies left, unless they are going to privatise the Inland Revenue.
Only if they can privatise the NHS first then it'll be the army then the police then it'll be us who'll be sold into servitude :sad:
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

disgruntledpostie1 wrote:
pinstripe wrote:
baldrick wrote:Postcon's brief was also from the Government which is to force RM to become more 'profitable'.
This and the Shareholder Executive's brief to increase the 'value' of RM can only have one
ultimate objective - to make RM ripe for privatisation.
Baldrick you'd better be careful, with an elemental deduction like that you may have to change your name to Sherlock Holmes. :dance

Dress it up any way they like, I agree with you that is their objective. I don't think there are any more National companies left, unless they are going to privatise the Inland Revenue.
Only if they can privatise the NHS first then it'll be the army then the police then it'll be us who'll be sold into servitude :sad:
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labour mp shaft us again

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peedofpostie wrote:...saw a clip in the local paper which says the scummy Labour Party have again voted to close thousands of Post Offices all over the country: not one of them voted against the motion, so when they come crawling at Xmas we should tell them to sling their hooks :evil/mad
...I don't mean to be pedantic, but how can they shaft anyone while they are in labour? :nervous
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