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baldrick wrote:Postcon's brief was also from the Government which is to force RM to become more 'profitable'. This and the Shareholder Executive's brief to increase the 'value' of RM can only have one ultimate objective - to make RM ripe for privatisation.
We process the delivery of mail. By definition, this is NOT about profit: it is about delivering letters. Even if profit were somehow brought perversely into the equation, the company would NOT be about profit. And you can scream "profit" as much as you like from the highest steeples, again and again. Postcomm must listen to US - NOT the other way round.
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majeed wrote:
baldrick wrote:Postcon's brief was also from the Government which is to force RM to become more 'profitable'. This and the Shareholder Executive's brief to increase the 'value' of RM can only have one ultimate objective - to make RM ripe for privatisation.
We process the delivery of mail. By definition, this is NOT about profit: it is about delivering letters. Even if profit were somehow brought perversely into the equation, the company would NOT be about profit. And you can scream "profit" as much as you like from the highest steeples, again and again. Postcomm must listen to US - NOT the other way round.
I agree with you, but try telling that to New Labour and these two :lfo :cfo
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Post by norbert »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
disgruntledpostie1 wrote:
pinstripe wrote:
baldrick wrote:Postcon's brief was also from the Government which is to force RM to become more 'profitable'.
This and the Shareholder Executive's brief to increase the 'value' of RM can only have one
ultimate objective - to make RM ripe for privatization.
Baldrick you'd better be careful, with an elemental deduction like that you may have to change your name to Sherlock Holmes. :dance

Dress it up any way they like, I agree with you that is their objective. I don't think there are any more National companies left, unless they are going to privatise the Inland Revenue.
Only if they can privatise the NHS first then it'll be the army then the police then it'll be us who'll be sold into servitude :sad:
The Army, along with the Navy, Marines and RAF have already been sold. To the USA Big Oil firms and others like Hale Burton.
I used to love the series " Drop the Dead Donkey " on TV - I got the audiobook tape from the bootsale - the jist of it , was the Major government had got itself reelected again AND the Services had been privatized - and the results were farcical . :crazy:

The irony is that Blue Labour propose to privatize forces training - apparently £1.2 billion is being spent to save the MOD £400 million - there's been Government research arms been sold off with nice cosy profitable deals . :hmmmm :hmmmm with Pension deficits - no big Union to cause a stir ?

The other irony is in the area where this private training firm wants to set up , the Blue Labour MP fully supports it in his constituency - c'mon , you don't want a poor old politician ending up down the job centre after a election !? :left: :Very Happy :left:

The other thing you've got to watch for is RM Board wanting the private equity people in and Senior Managers that are pro - privatization on the lookout for managerial buyouts - seen all this happen with legalized rackets - all these bitter disputes with the CWU and losing tribunals - it's all for a reason ? - if they can get people softened & sweetened up for their plans ? :hmmmm :hmmmm :hmmmm
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Post by majeed »

norbert wrote: ...the Services had been privatized - and the results were farcical...The irony is that Blue Labour propose to privatize forces training - apparently £1.2 billion is being spent to save the MOD £400 million...
What would be farcical - but not inconceivable - would be if the company winning the contract to own, run and manage the British armed forces was the same company that now supplies them with arms! From what we have seen, the Labour Party will seemingly stoop to any level, whether or not they get caught doing it!
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majeed wrote:
norbert wrote: ...the Services had been privatized - and the results were farcical...The irony is that Blue Labour propose to privatize forces training - apparently £1.2 billion is being spent to save the MOD £400 million...
What would be farcical - but not inconceivable - would be if the company winning the contract to own, run and manage the British armed forces was the same company that now supplies them with arms! From what we have seen, the Labour Party will seemingly stoop to any level, whether or not they get caught doing it!
PFI is actually a fiddle as it doesn't show on the books . Apparently there's a percentage that the government can't go over in their borrowing as compared to the GDP . It'll bankrupt the country in years to come .

It suits all the big businesses that want to get their noses into the trough . There's been documentaries on TV when Private Firms have jerry built these schools but they have the maintenance contracts and you get farcical situations like charging £700 to have new electric sockets put in - seriously ! - you end up with flow chart sheets as to who reports to whom and who authorizes what .

It's a racket full stop . Mussolini basically used the same idea in Fascist Italy during World War 2 , roads and infrastructure had to be built but there wasn't really the money to pay for them - little problem of the country being bankrupt .

Hospitals are the same , on paper it looks good , McBean can drone on in Parliament about new this and that - but it's not that simple .

The problem is that when McBean was Chancellor a lot of his sums didn't quite add up and to make good the deficit things have to be sold off .
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