Man Sends 1st And 2nd Class Post At Same Time To See Which Arrives First

[TrueBlueTerrier]

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A TikToker whose been getting to the bottom of the difference between Royal Mail first and second stamps class has claimed it's in fact all a scam after conducting a little experiment. Watch him explain here:

TikTok user Stage Door Johnny had previously been querying what the actual difference was between the two classes of stamps and how the postal service were able to differentiate them so they'd arrive at different times.

In theory of course, those posted with more expensive first class stamps attached to them should arrive the next working day, while those stickered with second class stamps can take two days or longer.

However, now his deeply scientific experiment has cast doubt on that theory and arguably the reason for buying first class over second.

He says in the video: "After my video about the second class post blew up lots of people suggested that I send two things in the post - one first class, one second class - and see what arrives first. So that's exactly what I'm going to do."

Johnny opts to send two identical postcards to himself and puts them both in envelopes, the only difference being that one has a first class stamp attached to it and the other a second class stamp.

Cut to him posting the cards at a nearby letterbox. He says: "It's rainy and disgusting, but I've put them in the post last thing on Saturday, so they should be going in first thing on Monday. We'll see what arrives first!"

Checking the mailbox in his flat on Monday, he finds nothing other than a phone book.

Tuesday, though, is a different story. On opening his mailbox he discovers both postcards have arrived.

"I'm not even joking they've both arrived the same day. I posted them Saturday and they both arrived Tuesday morning," he says in disbelief.

Currently on the Royal Mail website, a book of 12 second class stamps costs £7.92 - that's 66p per stamp. Compare that to a book of 12 first class stamps at £10.20 - 85p per stamp.

Yet it appears there's no difference to their actual arrival time - at least as far as this one-off experiment is concerned.

This despite Johnny previously posting a video on TikTok where an ex-Royal Mail employee explains what happens when the letters arrive at the post sorting office.

Apparently, a machine called a Culler Facer Canceller reads the phosphor lines on each stamp - a first class stamp has one of these lines going down the middle, while a second class stamp has three of them.

They're then separated, at which point the first class letters are organised to go on fast planes and other transport to arrive the next day, while second class are held back a day and sorted to be transported by slower road transport to arrive at the local post sorting office.

Your local post office then sorts them back together and delivers both first and second class letters.

The trouble is, in light of this latest video, we're not sure what to believe anymore.

A Royal Mail spokesperson said: "Every item of mail is important to Royal Mail. It is hard to speculate on what may have happened in this incident.

"Royal Mail aims to deliver First Class mail the next working day including Saturdays. For less urgent mail items, we deliver 2nd Class mail in two to three working days."

[Coffee lover]

If he sent it late on Saturday it probably wasn’t collected until the Monday therefore like lots of second-class letter is sent on Monday it just gets delivered Tuesday in fact I often see second-class letters both Frank and stamped coming through for delivery next day after they’ve been sent the previous day, I don’t see what the problem is if you really do need it next day then I suggest send it first class stamp and if it second-class it just might get there or it might not

[clashcityrocker]

What is a Tik Toker?

[grchpo]

Someone who hasn't got a proper job so he just does pointless cr*p.

[ted_e_bear]

What is a Tik Toker?

No idea but I hope his next video is of paint drying as it'll be more interesting to watch

[SpacePhoenix]

Could be that they were collected on the Saturday, the postie covering the walk cut-off on the Monday and they both ended up being delivered on the Tuesday

[k979aaa]

The difference is mails are classed as such 1st 2nd and at any point the 1st will take priority over 2nd class even been told just take the first class it depends on the situation at the time or events in time!

[SpacePhoenix]

The difference is mails are classed as such 1st 2nd and at any point the 1st will take priority over 2nd class even been told just take the first class it depends on the situation at the time or events in time!

The difference between 1st and 2nd is when they get processed and dispatched by the outward MC to the Inward MC:

1st:

Posted Day 1
Processed and dispatched by Outward MC to Inward MC Day 1
Processed by Inward MC during the night (Day 1 going into Day 2) and dispatched to the DO in the early hours of Day 2
Delivered Day 2

2nd:

Posted Day 1
Processed and dispatched by Outward MC to Inward MC Day 2
Processed by Inward MC during the night (Day 2 going into Day 3) and dispatched to the DO in the early hours of Day 3
Delivered Day 3

Once mail reaches the Inward MC, apart from D2D it's ALL 1st class and is ALL due for delivery on the day it arrives in the DO

SDs will always (and rightly so) take priority over everything else. Tracked seems to be next in line (don't know if Tracked is actually covered by the USO). Normal packets are next (a good chunk are technically flats/large letters which come under the USO), next it's flats and letters and probably finally D2D

At one time "Intra Mail" (mail posted in the area covered by a MC and being delivered to an address covered by the MC (well covered by a DO covered by the MC)) used to get priority over normal first class (those who've worked for RM long enough might remember getting bags from the MC with pink labels and the yorks that they were on with pink header cards. iirc we had pink tray labels as well. These days "Intra Mail" has equal priority to other first class.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

What is a Tik Toker?

A modern Youtuber, but shorter

[Woody Guthrie]

What is a Tik Toker?

Perhaps it's a drug reference.
It would make a lot of sense.

[POSTMAN]

What is a Tik Toker?

A modern Youtuber, but shorter

I'm 5.8" that rules me out.
Is Warwick Davis an admin on there?

Are we going off topic here?

[Wolf91]

Guy needs to get a life.

[Mr Rush]

However, now his deeply scientific experiment has cast doubt on that theory and arguably the reason for buying first class over second.

It used to be good form on the internet to mark sentences for sarcasm so no-one could mistake it for sincerity. Please, no more Onion articles.

[Tiddler]

Whilst I know to most of us a piece of mail, is a piece of mail irrespective of what stamp is on the letter/parcel. He/she is making a fair point into why pay 85p for something which you could get for 66p. If everyone followed this "advice" RM would lose millions in revenue. Obviously 2c prices would have to go up!

The main issue is that in a lot of cases its difficult to recognise when a 2c/48 item was posted as there is no date on it. So they get treated as if the need delivering the next day. Bags of 1c mail often have a mix of 1c & 2c mail in them as everyone wants to clear what's in front of them.