Know your enemy

[ade@cambs]

Some of the faces of the people who are trying to destroy us.

http://www.royalmailgroup.com/portal/rm ... d=23200558

[IWW Fellow Worker]

Tony McCarthy joined Royal Mail in January 2003 from BAE Systems plc, where he was Group HR Director and a member of the Executive Council.

Oh did he? So was he part of the Pergau Dam scandal I wonder? Were his fingerprints on the deal which sold the Hawk jets to bomb civillians on East Timor? I wonder if the Serious Fraud Office have had a word with Tony yet?

The 'Old Boy' network is alive and well in Royal Mail by the look of it.

[Big Daz]

Jonathan Evans joined the company directly from university in 1974.

Before his appointment as Company Secretary in 1999, he held a wide range of senior management positions throughout the Group. He is a trustee of the Royal Mail Pension Plan and of the Royal Mail Senior Executive Pension Plan, and a member of the GLS Supervisory Board.



I wonder how the senior executive pension plan is doing?

[IWW Fellow Worker]

I wonder how the senior executive pension plan is doing?

Considerably better than yours Brother!

[Bloke7]

"In 2006, Adam joined the boards of Camelot"

Reminds me of...

"We're Knights of the Round Table.
We dance whene'er we're able.
We do routines and chorus scenes
With footwork impeccable.
We dine well here in Camelot.
We eat ham and jam and spam a lot.
We're Knights of the Round Table.
Our shows are formidable,
But many times we're given rhymes
That are quite unsingable.
We're opera mad in Camelot.
We sing from the diaphragm a lot.
In war we're tough and able,
Quite indefatigable.
Between our quests we sequin vests and impersonate Clark Gable.
It's a busy life in Camelot.

I have to push the pram a lot."

[major.mawanga]

"Let`s not go to Camelot, it is a silly place."

[Bloke7]

[Rowdy]

Some of the faces of the people who are trying to destroy us.

http://www.royalmailgroup.com/portal/rm ... d=23200558

Collectively know as 'The Smiling Assassins'.

[IWW Fellow Worker]

Some of the faces of the people who are trying to destroy us.

http://www.royalmailgroup.com/portal/rm ... d=23200558

Collectively know as 'The Smiling Assassins'.

Or "A big shower of bastards!"

[F0zziebear]

An interesting one as I directly worked for one of them, and worked with almost all of them on your list.

An interesting bunch, many of whom are actually very good a their jobs. However, pensions and modernisation you may question this. Dodgy backgrounds? Maybe, but anymore than other senior execs?

A question. What do you think an exec. at RM should earn? People go on about fat cats etc... but no-one's ever stated what they should earn

FUzz

[PHP]

A question. What do you think an exec. at RM should earn? People go on about fat cats etc... but no-one's ever stated what they should earn

FUzz

How about actually EARNING it first?!

[F0zziebear]

Eh?

Sparksy that doesnt make any sense. What do you mean by earning it first? Crozier made has name at Saatchi & Saatchi, and became one of the youngest marketing executives in history. Think he was at the top by his early thirties.

Between 1988 and 1999 Adam Crozier steadily moved up the ranks at Saatchi & Saatchi, a renowned and expanding international marketing and advertising agency. He survived a major shake-up in 1995 caused when the company's founders resigned under pressure and then created a rival agency. Crozier ended his career at Saatchi & Saatchi holding the position of joint chief executive, having helped stabilize, rebuild, and expand the company's client base, despite analysts' predictions of disaster. Starting late in 1999 Crozier served as chief executive of the Football Association, one of Great Britain's two national soccer leagues. At the Football Association, Crozier met with controversy as he successfully began modernizing and reorganizing the institution. By the time he was forced to leave, Crozier had dramatically increased revenue and brought in the first non-English coach of the national England team.

But then again read this paragraph, a sign of things to come?

Crozier came from a tight-knit family. He was the second of three children and the only boy. He played soccer in high school and studied business organization in college at Heriot-Watt, not sure of his career path. Crozier's first noted business experience started at Mars Pedigree pet food, where he worked as a graduate trainee. He later told Andrew Davidson of Management Today that it was at Mars that "he learnt about the importance of deciding clear objectives, and plotting how you can achieve them, before leaping into a project." Deciding to try something new, in 1986 Crozier joined the sales division of the Telegraph newspaper group, which had recently been acquired by the Canadian Conrad Black and was undergoing reorganization. Crozier was subsequently rebuked for exaggerating his sales figures, almost losing his job. In the long run Crozier considered the experience a useful lesson in humility. After two years Crozier was hired in 1988 as a low-level media executive by the successful and growing international advertising group Saatchi & Saatchi, then headquartered in London. He took to the work and was promoted repeatedly.

As for the others I don't know their history's inside out.

My point about asking wha they should be paid is based on people having a major problem with his bonus early on when he joined, and being one of the highest paid civil servants. In my opinion based on the fact that the Government privatised the company, but retain all the shares they are therefore entitled to private sector salaries. That goes for everyone in the company.

It also seems that Brown stated quite clearly when he came into leadership that public sector pay rises will be below inflation as they cannot afford to pay inflation or above salary rises. Is this a recipe for disaster? Does Tony B know something and realised that a public revolt was on his hands?

Late night F0zz

[PHP]

Eh?

Sparksy that doesnt make any sense. What do you mean by earning it first? Crozier made has name at Saatchi & Saatchi, and became one of the youngest marketing executives in history. Think he was at the top by his early thirties.

Between 1988 and 1999 Adam Crozier steadily moved up the ranks at Saatchi & Saatchi, a renowned and expanding international marketing and advertising agency. He survived a major shake-up in 1995 caused when the company's founders resigned under pressure and then created a rival agency. Crozier ended his career at Saatchi & Saatchi holding the position of joint chief executive, having helped stabilize, rebuild, and expand the company's client base, despite analysts' predictions of disaster. Starting late in 1999 Crozier served as chief executive of the Football Association, one of Great Britain's two national soccer leagues. At the Football Association, Crozier met with controversy as he successfully began modernizing and reorganizing the institution. By the time he was forced to leave, Crozier had dramatically increased revenue and brought in the first non-English coach of the national England team.

Wow! You've learnt how to copy n paste!

His job at Saatchi & Saatchi - what did that entail?! Peddling the proles more crap they don't need and can't afford?! I don't think I even need to go into his stint at the FA! The Wembley debacle is still very fresh in all English footy fans' minds!

But then again read this paragraph, a sign of things to come?

Crozier came from a tight-knit family. He was the second of three children and the only boy. He played soccer in high school and studied business organization in college at Heriot-Watt, not sure of his career path. Crozier's first noted business experience started at Mars Pedigree pet food, where he worked as a graduate trainee. He later told Andrew Davidson of Management Today that it was at Mars that "he learnt about the importance of deciding clear objectives, and plotting how you can achieve them, before leaping into a project." Deciding to try something new, in 1986 Crozier joined the sales division of the Telegraph newspaper group, which had recently been acquired by the Canadian Conrad Black and was undergoing reorganization. Crozier was subsequently rebuked for exaggerating his sales figures, almost losing his job. In the long run Crozier considered the experience a useful lesson in humility. After two years Crozier was hired in 1988 as a low-level media executive by the successful and growing international advertising group Saatchi & Saatchi, then headquartered in London. He took to the work and was promoted repeatedly.

As for the others I don't know their history's inside out.

My point about asking wha they should be paid is based on people having a major problem with his bonus early on when he joined, and being one of the highest paid civil servants. In my opinion based on the fact that the Government privatised the company, but retain all the shares they are therefore entitled to private sector salaries. That goes for everyone in the company.

It also seems that Brown stated quite clearly when he came into leadership that public sector pay rises will be below inflation as they cannot afford to pay inflation or above salary rises. Is this a recipe for disaster? Does Tony B know something and realised that a public revolt was on his hands?

Late night F0zz

More copying n pasting, very original!

When they actually start EARNING anything I 'll tell ya!

[F0zziebear]

Still no-one has responded. How much would you pay someone to run the Royal Mail? I'm not asking how much you would pay this lot as it's obvious the relationship has ended.

How much would you pay someone to manage a medium sized DO (lets say approx. 100-200 posties)? As there seems to be major unhappiness at their bonus?

Can someone also tell me how much bonus a postie gets each year? Is this bonus guaranteed or is it performance related?

Sh*t the bi-monthly rubbish collection is here...........................

[Spartacus]

"Crozier was subsequently rebuked for exaggerating his sales figures, almost losing his job. In the long run Crozier considered the experience a useful lesson in humility."



So he was a liar then as well ?

He obviously hasn't learned any lessons from it. :cfo