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Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

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milly
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

Post by milly »

77SAMPOST77 wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 21:48
milly wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 20:09
SpacePhoenix wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 19:52
77SAMPOST77 wrote:
16 Jul 2025, 12:42
Royal Mail collection drivers collect the Parcelforce items and Parcelforce drivers are delivering Royal Mail items.
Once we merge properly then I would imagine Parcelforce will no longer exist.
Then DPR routes in royal mail will no longer exist , they will just send all parcels to the now Parcelforce depots ,
Parcelforce or whatever it is called in the future (maybe royal mail parcels) is expanding new vans , new drivers .
also been told we may need bigger depots ,
The 1st phase is to take up to 14 million parcels from royal royal mail into Parcelforce they are not spending all this money on Parcelforce depots for nothing .
The Parcelforce brand may disappear but not the depots and drivers they are investing heavily in the Parcelforce depots .
Wonder if they'll also take all the SDs
Sounds like Parcelforce could also deliver all the household deliveries whilst they're at it .
Who knew, only 6500 of them could do so much work.
They already do household deliveries , or do you mean letters ,
and where have you got your 6500 figure from , and are you forgetting or do not know that parcelforce has 25% owner drivers .
The available information says there are 6500 Parcelforce employees, courtesy of the Parcelforce website.
https://www.parcelforce.com/about-parcelforce-worldwide
Beanyjazz
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

Post by Beanyjazz »

ParcelForce are still recruiting, they wouldn't be recruiting permanent contracts if they were going.

As somebody said, RM collection drivers now collect PF parcels, PF aren't even dropping off items at post offices for customers, it's now 3 attempts via an app.

PF still deliver items 20-30kg as RM don't!

They might be 'merged' but the brand name will probably be kept to avoid confusion for customers. They've just taken post offices from them so they can delivers more parcels and do more home/firm collections.
milly
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

Post by milly »

Beanyjazz wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 10:13
ParcelForce are still recruiting, they wouldn't be recruiting permanent contracts if they were going.

As somebody said, RM collection drivers now collect PF parcels, PF aren't even dropping off items at post offices for customers, it's now 3 attempts via an app.

PF still deliver items 20-30kg as RM don't!

They might be 'merged' but the brand name will probably be kept to avoid confusion for customers. They've just taken post offices from them so they can delivers more parcels and do more home/firm collections.
It would be more confusing to keep different brand names for customers, when essentially Royal Mail and Parcelforce perform the same work in the eyes of customers.
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Beanyjazz wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 10:13
PF still deliver items 20-30kg as RM don't!
Some firms can post up to 30kg into RM's system.
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

Post by Beanyjazz »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 11:19
Beanyjazz wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 10:13
PF still deliver items 20-30kg as RM don't!
Some firms can post up to 30kg into RM's system.
Yeah I know I didn't say they didn't.

I said ''PF still deliver items 20-30kg as RM don't!''

The word is deliver not post.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Beanyjazz wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 19:43
SpacePhoenix wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 11:19
Beanyjazz wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 10:13
PF still deliver items 20-30kg as RM don't!
Some firms can post up to 30kg into RM's system.
Yeah I know I didn't say they didn't.

I said ''PF still deliver items 20-30kg as RM don't!''

The word is deliver not post.
RM do deliver 30kg items, we do sometimes get 30kg items through which get sorted to the relevant DO.
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

Post by menditsa »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 20:12
Beanyjazz wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 19:43
SpacePhoenix wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 11:19
Beanyjazz wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 10:13
PF still deliver items 20-30kg as RM don't!
Some firms can post up to 30kg into RM's system.
Yeah I know I didn't say they didn't.

I said ''PF still deliver items 20-30kg as RM don't!''

The word is deliver not post.
RM do deliver 30kg items, we do sometimes get 30kg items through which get sorted to the relevant DO.
I refuse anything over 20kg (Or what I had yesterday 10 x 15kgs bags of what felt like coal) as of being in my mid 60's anything above that is a struggle for me and the 6 sack barrows we do have in the office are allocated to Firms routes and you cannot use them.
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

Post by TopperGas »

menditsa wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 20:33
SpacePhoenix wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 20:12
Beanyjazz wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 19:43
SpacePhoenix wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 11:19
Beanyjazz wrote:
17 Jul 2025, 10:13
PF still deliver items 20-30kg as RM don't!
Some firms can post up to 30kg into RM's system.
Yeah I know I didn't say they didn't.

I said ''PF still deliver items 20-30kg as RM don't!''

The word is deliver not post.
RM do deliver 30kg items, we do sometimes get 30kg items through which get sorted to the relevant DO.
I refuse anything over 20kg (Or what I had yesterday 10 x 15kgs bags of what felt like coal) as of being in my mid 60's anything above that is a struggle for me and the 6 sack barrows we do have in the office are allocated to Firms routes and you cannot use them.
if it was Amazon's it's probably cat litter or dog food, I've no idea why we're now lumbered with delivering those items for Amazon.
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

Post by Beanyjazz »

RM do deliver 30kg items, we do sometimes get 30kg items through which get sorted to the relevant DO.
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Well you're doing it wrong then, because it's supposed to be PF, even if a 24/48 tracked has got through. I honestly don't get why people help management bend the rules so much.

'No, Royal Mail does not deliver parcels weighing over 20kg. The maximum weight for Royal Mail parcels is 20kg. For items exceeding 20kg, you will need to use Parcelforce Worldwide. The maximum dimensions for Royal Mail parcels are 61cm x 46cm x 46cm.'
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Beanyjazz wrote:
18 Jul 2025, 07:54
RM do deliver 30kg items, we do sometimes get 30kg items through which get sorted to the relevant DO.
Well you're doing it wrong then, because it's supposed to be PF, even if a 24/48 tracked has got through. I honestly don't get why people help management bend the rules so much.

'No, Royal Mail does not deliver parcels weighing over 20kg. The maximum weight for Royal Mail parcels is 20kg. For items exceeding 20kg, you will need to use Parcelforce Worldwide. The maximum dimensions for Royal Mail parcels are 61cm x 46cm x 46cm.'
[/quote]

WRONG!

From: https://www.royalmail.com/business/ship ... cked-24-48
Sizes and what you can send

Parcel
Max L 61cm
x W 46cm
x D 46cm

e.g. Gifts, shoes, heavy or bulky items

Parcel max weight: 30kg

Tubes and Rolls
Max 2kg |
Max L 90cm
x W *
x D *

The length plus twice the diameter must be less than 104cm, with the greatest dimension less than 90cm
If it's a 30kg parcel, if it's RM Tracked it WILL be sent to the relevant DO.
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

Post by SkiSunday »

You come across like you are DELIGHTED about us having to deliver 30kg parcels. You wouldn't last TWO MINUTES in a DO pal.
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

Post by Mr Rush »

SkiSunday wrote:
18 Jul 2025, 13:10
You come across like you are DELIGHTED about us having to deliver 30kg parcels. You wouldn't last TWO MINUTES in a DO pal.
Especially not when trying to get one of those packets out the bloody corex. Anyone got one of those snow shovels handy? :crazy:
The machine stops.
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

Post by Smoothbackground »

SkiSunday wrote:
18 Jul 2025, 13:10
You come across like you are DELIGHTED about us having to deliver 30kg parcels. You wouldn't last TWO MINUTES in a DO pal.
How would you know? Depending on their specific role, presumably some people in MCs probably spend the whole shift lugging about these massive “non-conveyable” boxes, some weighing as much as 30kg.

From my own experience, as this little lady is usually the poor sod who delivers them(!), I can tell you that we definitely do deliver up to 30kg. An extreme example — I took out ten 25kg bags of soil/compost to one address a couple of Sundays back as the walk postie on the Saturday refused to deliver them. Had a similar scenario with gravel/stone bags a couple of months back too.
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

Post by qwerty2 »

Smoothbackground wrote:
18 Jul 2025, 17:04
SkiSunday wrote:
18 Jul 2025, 13:10
You come across like you are DELIGHTED about us having to deliver 30kg parcels. You wouldn't last TWO MINUTES in a DO pal.
How would you know? Depending on their specific role, presumably some people in MCs probably spend the whole shift lugging about these massive “non-conveyable” boxes, some weighing as much as 30kg.

From my own experience, as this little lady is usually the poor sod who delivers them(!), I can tell you that we definitely do deliver up to 30kg. An extreme example — I took out ten 25kg bags of soil/compost to one address a couple of Sundays back as the walk postie on the Saturday refused to deliver them. Had a similar scenario with gravel/stone bags a couple of months back too.
I wouldn’t either - H&S issue - I remember years ago 16kg was the maximum weight for pouches
don’t know what it is for parcels - I’m not carrying 30kgs
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Re: Is the end for the Parcelforce brand?

Post by dazzler123 »

Those parcel measurements are horseshit. I delivered a fecking lawnmower today