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FAO DAVE and MARTIN
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hans solo
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FAO DAVE and MARTIN
You have stopped f**k all
ODM coming into ours 9th Feb
Cheers boys
ODM coming into ours 9th Feb
Cheers boys
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Valentina@1
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Re: FAO DAVE and MARTIN
Sold down the river 
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tramssirhc
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Re: FAO DAVE and MARTIN
What's the div reps, area reps saying?
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
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redlen
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Re: FAO DAVE and MARTIN
Cannot see how this is possible with the currrent defecit with staffing levels?
Now why we know the silence from the ivory towers.
Let us see how they try and spin this one.
Now why we know the silence from the ivory towers.
Let us see how they try and spin this one.
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hans solo
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Re: FAO DAVE and MARTIN
Have not spoken to area or div reps
Will update tmrrw
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Valentina@1
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Re: FAO DAVE and MARTIN
Not seen Walsh in ages,would help if he got back on here to update members,the radio silence from CWU is worrying everyone.
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chickenwittle
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Martin Walsh
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Re: FAO DAVE and MARTIN
They cannot legally impose ODM outside of the DRP process, flag it up to you Branch and Division.
o. 27/26
29th January 2026
Dear Colleague,
Dispute Resolution Process, USO & Equalisation
We have today received formal notification from Royal Mail that they have activated the
Dispute Resolution Process on Universal Service reform. Within their heads of
disagreement they are stating they want to deploy the Optimised Delivery Model 4 into 3
duties method change. This is following a meeting we had yesterday with EP.
The Dispute Resolution Process now results in one month of negotiations to see if an
agreement can be reached. After this month Royal Mail can give their intentions which could
result in executive action and the CWU can decide to ballot nationally or locally for industrial
action.
The CWU will not be supporting or agreeing to the Optimised Delivery Model as it has not
worked within most of the pilot units. However, we will enter negotiations to try and persuade
Royal Mail to adopt the heavy and light model which worked within a number of the pilot
sites during peak.
Royal Mail’s communication also states that the CWU’s proposal on equalisation is
unaffordable. The CWU position remains that EP agreed to equalise new entrants’ pay,
terms and conditions over an agreed career path, including a first step backdated to
September and we are insisting they honour this in full.
Royal Mail are communicating to all employees this lunch time and likewise the CWU will
communicate to our members. We will be giving a more detailed written update early next
week.
We will also be holding an online National Briefing with our Branches next week. Details to
follow.
Any enquiries should be referred to the DGSP Department.
Yours sincerely,
Martin Walsh
Deputy General Secre
o. 27/26
29th January 2026
Dear Colleague,
Dispute Resolution Process, USO & Equalisation
We have today received formal notification from Royal Mail that they have activated the
Dispute Resolution Process on Universal Service reform. Within their heads of
disagreement they are stating they want to deploy the Optimised Delivery Model 4 into 3
duties method change. This is following a meeting we had yesterday with EP.
The Dispute Resolution Process now results in one month of negotiations to see if an
agreement can be reached. After this month Royal Mail can give their intentions which could
result in executive action and the CWU can decide to ballot nationally or locally for industrial
action.
The CWU will not be supporting or agreeing to the Optimised Delivery Model as it has not
worked within most of the pilot units. However, we will enter negotiations to try and persuade
Royal Mail to adopt the heavy and light model which worked within a number of the pilot
sites during peak.
Royal Mail’s communication also states that the CWU’s proposal on equalisation is
unaffordable. The CWU position remains that EP agreed to equalise new entrants’ pay,
terms and conditions over an agreed career path, including a first step backdated to
September and we are insisting they honour this in full.
Royal Mail are communicating to all employees this lunch time and likewise the CWU will
communicate to our members. We will be giving a more detailed written update early next
week.
We will also be holding an online National Briefing with our Branches next week. Details to
follow.
Any enquiries should be referred to the DGSP Department.
Yours sincerely,
Martin Walsh
Deputy General Secre
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tramssirhc
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Re: FAO DAVE and MARTIN
What they say?
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
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Rumple
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Re: FAO DAVE and MARTIN
What can be achieved in a further month of negotiations?
That reads to me EP are basically taking executive action in a month unless the CWU concede a lot of ground.
Not sure the CWU would get a yes vote on a ballot for IA as it only affects delivery.
That reads to me EP are basically taking executive action in a month unless the CWU concede a lot of ground.
Not sure the CWU would get a yes vote on a ballot for IA as it only affects delivery.
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Saturn1
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Re: FAO DAVE and MARTIN
What would IA achieve? Unless you took a solid stance of everybody out indefinitely, literally grinding the service to a halt, nobody is going to pay any notice to odd days striking, it didn't work last time round.
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toonshola
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Re: FAO DAVE and MARTIN
This is true and probably why the business has weighed it all up and decided to take the union on and ram through the ODM through executive action in the coming weeks. There is literally nothing the CWU can do and RM obviously know that.
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redlen
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Re: FAO DAVE and MARTIN
Can I ask request for some clarity from Martin Walsh with this statement that he made???
They cannot legally impose ODM outside of the DRP process, flag it up to you Branch and Division.
This mentions the legally binding dispute resolution procedure 3.2.
That will be 3.2 contained in the Agenda for Growth agreement.
Has that agreement not been previously breached by the CWU allowing executive action being a no strike agreement in all but name? This is how Royal Mail were able to introduce these two-tier contracts etc being a previously red line?
That redline being paragraph 2.4 with not employing new staff on inferior terms and conditions? If the CWU had not previously breached the Agenda for Growth how then were Royal Mail able to introduce the two-tier contracts contravening the legal undertakings contained in that Agenda for Growth Agreement?
They cannot legally impose ODM outside of the DRP process, flag it up to you Branch and Division.
This mentions the legally binding dispute resolution procedure 3.2.
That will be 3.2 contained in the Agenda for Growth agreement.
Has that agreement not been previously breached by the CWU allowing executive action being a no strike agreement in all but name? This is how Royal Mail were able to introduce these two-tier contracts etc being a previously red line?
That redline being paragraph 2.4 with not employing new staff on inferior terms and conditions? If the CWU had not previously breached the Agenda for Growth how then were Royal Mail able to introduce the two-tier contracts contravening the legal undertakings contained in that Agenda for Growth Agreement?
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Gingerbread Fred
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Re: FAO DAVE and MARTIN
The CWU are one of the most unprofessional outfits I know of. After spending the best part of 10 years as a unit rep, area rep and standing in as a divisional rep i can tell you very few senior members actually know how something as basic as the IR framework works.
It came as no surprise to me when our strikes were blocked by the high court during the last dispute. The nail in coffin was backing down after a 97% yes vote from the members for industrial action.
I'm biding my time now until I retire or am made redundant - no longer a union member and quite frankly do not trust the CWU to support the workforce.
This new talk of "industrial action" is desperate. Membership down to 54% of the workforce and most of those will refuse to walk out when asked.
It came as no surprise to me when our strikes were blocked by the high court during the last dispute. The nail in coffin was backing down after a 97% yes vote from the members for industrial action.
I'm biding my time now until I retire or am made redundant - no longer a union member and quite frankly do not trust the CWU to support the workforce.
This new talk of "industrial action" is desperate. Membership down to 54% of the workforce and most of those will refuse to walk out when asked.