Pilot offices

[hans solo]

Wee chat with area rep this morning
Pilot offices not one has made any savings
35 offices so far have cost RM £900,000
And we are just about to enter busy season
RM exec shitting themselves as they promised EP group 300 mill savings
3in 4 odm is dead as far as cwu concerned bit RM still trying to push their nonsense agendas to save their own jobs

[oypostie]

Maybe they should have had the sense to test their assumptions in the pilots before they started trying to bully OFCOM in to agreeing their agenda

Fingers crossed EP will have a cull of the deadwood before long

[buchanpeter]

Just heard that the coaches in my office have a USO meeting tomorrow.
Think they're forcing through the 4 into 3 system.
Complete silence from the CWU.
So think area managers are just forcing it through.
Which is a shame cause the new proposed ODM sounds better than the 4 into 3 one.

[SkiSunday]

Just heard that the coaches in my office have a USO meeting tomorrow.
Think they're forcing through the 4 into 3 system.
Complete silence from the CWU.
So think area managers are just forcing it through.
Which is a shame cause the new proposed ODM sounds better than the 4 into 3 one.

Are the WPCs all union reps at your DO?

[Barnacle]

Just heard that the coaches in my office have a USO meeting tomorrow.
Think they're forcing through the 4 into 3 system.
Complete silence from the CWU.
So think area managers are just forcing it through.
Which is a shame cause the new proposed ODM sounds better than the 4 into 3 one.

There isn’t silence from the CWU on this. It is not going in. That’s it. Any method based on the pilot does not work and has been scrapped. No new method will be put in until we have voted on it.

[SkiSunday]

Just heard that the coaches in my office have a USO meeting tomorrow.
Think they're forcing through the 4 into 3 system.
Complete silence from the CWU.
So think area managers are just forcing it through.
Which is a shame cause the new proposed ODM sounds better than the 4 into 3 one.

There isn’t silence from the CWU on this. It is not going in. That’s it. Any method based on the pilot does not work and has been scrapped. No new method will be put in until we have voted on it.

TBF the CWU have been very quiet the last while have they not? I seem to remember Dingo being awfully vocal on here until recently.

[buchanpeter]

Just heard that the coaches in my office have a USO meeting tomorrow.
Think they're forcing through the 4 into 3 system.
Complete silence from the CWU.
So think area managers are just forcing it through.
Which is a shame cause the new proposed ODM sounds better than the 4 into 3 one.

Are the WPCs all union reps at your DO?

No we don't have a local rep. We contact the area rep for any major issues.
The WPC's have a meeting with the area managers tomorrow apparently.
So either they're pushing through the first ODM. (We just got our frames all coloured for it the past 2 weeks).
Or they're gonna brief the WPC's on the new ODM.

[Barnacle]

Just heard that the coaches in my office have a USO meeting tomorrow.
Think they're forcing through the 4 into 3 system.
Complete silence from the CWU.
So think area managers are just forcing it through.
Which is a shame cause the new proposed ODM sounds better than the 4 into 3 one.

Are the WPCs all union reps at your DO?

No we don't have a local rep. We contact the area rep for any major issues.
The WPC's have a meeting with the area managers tomorrow apparently.
So either they're pushing through the first ODM. (We just got our frames all coloured for it the past 2 weeks).
Or they're gonna brief the WPC's on the new ODM.

You really need a rep in your office. This stops managers using work coaches to bypass agreements nade with the union.

[Valentina@1]

They just bypass union anyway

[SkiSunday]

Just heard that the coaches in my office have a USO meeting tomorrow.
Think they're forcing through the 4 into 3 system.
Complete silence from the CWU.
So think area managers are just forcing it through.
Which is a shame cause the new proposed ODM sounds better than the 4 into 3 one.

Are the WPCs all union reps at your DO?

No we don't have a local rep. We contact the area rep for any major issues.
The WPC's have a meeting with the area managers tomorrow apparently.
So either they're pushing through the first ODM. (We just got our frames all coloured for it the past 2 weeks).
Or they're gonna brief the WPC's on the new ODM.

You should be notifying your area rep about this. Look up who that is and email/phone them. If you get no response then go higher. We pay their wages!

[Barnacle]

Just heard that the coaches in my office have a USO meeting tomorrow.
Think they're forcing through the 4 into 3 system.
Complete silence from the CWU.
So think area managers are just forcing it through.
Which is a shame cause the new proposed ODM sounds better than the 4 into 3 one.

Are the WPCs all union reps at your DO?

No we don't have a local rep. We contact the area rep for any major issues.
The WPC's have a meeting with the area managers tomorrow apparently.
So either they're pushing through the first ODM. (We just got our frames all coloured for it the past 2 weeks).
Or they're gonna brief the WPC's on the new ODM.

You should be notifying your area rep about this. Look up who that is and email/phone them. If you get no response then go higher. We pay their wages!

Plus, the Area Rep should get the Rep position advertised up on a board and encourage people to apply. No office should be without a Rep.

[SkiSunday]

Just heard that the coaches in my office have a USO meeting tomorrow.
Think they're forcing through the 4 into 3 system.
Complete silence from the CWU.
So think area managers are just forcing it through.
Which is a shame cause the new proposed ODM sounds better than the 4 into 3 one.

Are the WPCs all union reps at your DO?

No we don't have a local rep. We contact the area rep for any major issues.
The WPC's have a meeting with the area managers tomorrow apparently.
So either they're pushing through the first ODM. (We just got our frames all coloured for it the past 2 weeks).
Or they're gonna brief the WPC's on the new ODM.

You should be notifying your area rep about this. Look up who that is and email/phone them. If you get no response then go higher. We pay their wages!

Plus, the Area Rep should get the Rep position advertised up on a board and encourage people to apply. No office should be without a Rep.

Why are we so f****d then? Genuine question

[Barnacle]

Just heard that the coaches in my office have a USO meeting tomorrow.
Think they're forcing through the 4 into 3 system.
Complete silence from the CWU.
So think area managers are just forcing it through.
Which is a shame cause the new proposed ODM sounds better than the 4 into 3 one.

Are the WPCs all union reps at your DO?

No we don't have a local rep. We contact the area rep for any major issues.
The WPC's have a meeting with the area managers tomorrow apparently.
So either they're pushing through the first ODM. (We just got our frames all coloured for it the past 2 weeks).
Or they're gonna brief the WPC's on the new ODM.

You should be notifying your area rep about this. Look up who that is and email/phone them. If you get no response then go higher. We pay their wages!

Plus, the Area Rep should get the Rep position advertised up on a board and encourage people to apply. No office should be without a Rep.

Why are we so f****d then? Genuine question

What do you mean? Which bit
I think there are about 150 offices without a rep and the members in that office really need to rattle the cage of their Area Rep to get it sorted.

[TopperGas]

Just heard that the coaches in my office have a USO meeting tomorrow.
Think they're forcing through the 4 into 3 system.
Complete silence from the CWU.
So think area managers are just forcing it through.
Which is a shame cause the new proposed ODM sounds better than the 4 into 3 one.

There isn’t silence from the CWU on this. It is not going in. That’s it. Any method based on the pilot does not work and has been scrapped. No new method will be put in until we have voted on it.

We've not heard a single word from the CWU since around the first week of Sept, in the meantime the company are pressing ahead colour coding sorting frames in various DO's and Im sure they are not doing that just to bring some brighter colours to DO's, they are also suggesting OT will be controlled by SISO from October, whilst remaining totally silent on equalising the new contract starters.

[Barnacle]

Just heard that the coaches in my office have a USO meeting tomorrow.
Think they're forcing through the 4 into 3 system.
Complete silence from the CWU.
So think area managers are just forcing it through.
Which is a shame cause the new proposed ODM sounds better than the 4 into 3 one.

There isn’t silence from the CWU on this. It is not going in. That’s it. Any method based on the pilot does not work and has been scrapped. No new method will be put in until we have voted on it.

We've not heard a single word from the CWU since around the first week of Sept, in the meantime the company are pressing ahead colour coding sorting frames in various DO's and Im sure they are not doing that just to bring some brighter colours to DO's, they are also suggesting OT will be controlled by SISO from October, whilst remaining totally silent on equalising the new contract starters.

So you haven’t heard from the CWU for a week?

Colour coding frames means nowt. Any new way of working has to be voted on by us. Vertical sorting is just their nonsense, who cares? Let them waste even more time and money on nonsense.

SISO for overtime has been on the cards since September last year. Don’t ghost. Those days are over.

Equalising contracts: they are negotiating with the company right now on all the issues outlined in the pay deal that you all voted for.