Pay increase & back pay

[makingsounds]

Is anyone who leaves the business before the pay increase and back pay is paid entitled to any of it as they were in employment on April 1st when an increase was due or do you have to be employed at the time of payment to receive it?

[NWpostie]

You should be entitled to the back pay for the period you worked,
A friend I know left the business to join the police and did just that, he was ignored when he requested the back pay, the Police Federation got involved and within weeks he got the excess paid to him.

[redlen]

You will not be entitled to any back pay as you no longer hold a contractual relationship with the employer

[Basildon Bond]

Probably a lot of armchair lawyers going to say "yes", "no", "maybe".

According to a previous post on this thread there is a "maybe" - sounds like it takes the Police to make a fuss though. According to this...

https://www.brownejacobson.com/insights ... ges-claims

...maybe.

I googled around a few sites and the Google AI overview actually seems to sum them up quite well, saying:

Generally, if a pay rise is agreed upon and backdated to a period when an employee was still working for the company, they are entitled to the backdated pay, even if they have since left the company. However, the specifics of whether or not the former employee is entitled to the backdated pay depend on the terms of the pay agreement and the employee's contract

So you first have to check your contract carefully for any mentions about exclusions to bonuses and pay rises etc. Assuming you are entitled to an amount, chances are RM would not contact any ex-employee waving extra money at them so all the steps will be on the ex-employee to take action.

You may even need to expect an initial denial by RM with them hoping you go away and don't press the issue. Hence you may have to make a fuss (don't get angry or annoyed, cool and calm works better however you feel at the time). Ultimately it could end up at a tribunal but maybe contacting the union would help if RM doesn't want to help.

And remember any money awarded would be minus the normal deductions as if you were employed (tax, pension, etc.).

Best armchair advice I can give.

[Postie Malone]

As this has been posted in the Union Room board, perhaps someone from the union could actually confirm what has been agreed about this.

I'm sure that the previous agreement specified that all those still in employment on a specific date would be entitled to the back pay from April. What is the actual position this time?

[SkiSunday]

As this has been posted in the Union Room board, perhaps someone from the union could actually confirm what has been agreed about this.

I'm sure that the previous agreement specified that all those still in employment on a specific date would be entitled to the back pay from April. What is the actual position this time?

Not sure about the specifics...but if the CWU don't make sure any leavers are paid what they are due, then they need to be investigated for stealing members money.

[redlen]

The problem this chap has in trying to claim back the pay rise is that he has left the business and any contractual relationship has ended.

Even though proposed backdated to April, the payrise has yet to happen,
It still has to be voted on and agreed by the members through collective bargaining,

And yes you are correct the previous agreement stipulated you still had to be an employee to receive the financial renumeration

[Postie Malone]

The OP doesn't say that he has already left RM. With the current turnover of staff there are likely to be at least a couple of thousand people who leave between now and the end of September, some of whom may have some flexibility over the date that they leave the business.

Surely they deserve to be told by the union what the qualifying service date for backpay will be per the agreement with RM.

[POSTMAN]

In the event of a yes (vote) then it would be paid in last week of Sept.

[fb1969]

Surely they deserve to be told by the union what the qualifying service date for backpay will be per the agreement with RM.

During my time in RM (2012-2022) the backdated pay rise was paid to people in service on the date of the agreement between RM and the CWU. This year's agreement seems to have been made on 29 Jun 25, so possibly payable to those who hadn't left before then.