People getting paid more for being slow due to long term injury.

[norris9]

Is it right and fair that people with long term/permanent injuries/ailments, who are much slower at completing a duty, get paid significant overtime and therefore much more than other people to do the same job?

I totally understand that if you have certain physical health issues that you are going to be slower, but I am curious to know if there is any policy that should be followed in this situation?

1. Should they even be doing overtime if they have a long term/permanent health issue? and if so, who should decide this - the doctor, manager, postie?

2. At what point should they be dismissed, if someone's booking 1 hour extra overtime every day compared to multiple physically fit posties doing the same duty - could/should that result in dismissal if the injury has been causing them trouble for a long time and isn't getting any better?

I ask this question because I am hassled at work by management who claim I am too slow (when I am not), meanwhile the other postie who is a float for my duty is significantly slower and they pay this postie 1 hour+ of overtime to clear the duty. I have said to the manager - how can you tell me I am too slow when you are paying the other postie to significant overtime to stay out. They just tell me - 'well, she has an ongoing injury'.

[Sean06]

Is it right and fair that people with long term/permanent injuries/ailments, who are much slower at completing a duty, get paid significant overtime and therefore much more than other people to do the same job?

I totally understand that if you have certain physical health issues that you are going to be slower, but I am curious to know if there is any policy that should be followed in this situation?

1. Should they even be doing overtime if they have a long term/permanent health issue? and if so, who should decide this - the doctor, manager, postie?

2. At what point should they be dismissed, if someone's booking 1 hour extra overtime every day compared to multiple physically fit posties doing the same duty - could/should that result in dismissal if the injury has been causing them trouble for a long time and isn't getting any better?

I ask this question because I am hassled at work by management who claim I am too slow (when I am not), meanwhile the other postie who is a float for my duty is significantly slower and they pay this postie 1 hour+ of overtime to clear the duty. I have said to the manager - how can you tell me I am too slow when you are paying the other postie to significant overtime to stay out. They just tell me - 'well, she has an ongoing injury'.

So basically you want someone sacked for trying their best to do the job.btw what is significant ot were all on the same rate.

[redlen]

Realise you have an honest intention, but this is borderline discrimination of a protected characteristic. You do not know what ailment your colleague has and not your business to know. It is called a temporary reasonable adjustment and you are no health care professional to make such a negative comment.

[ted_e_bear]

I also understand what your point is but I can see it from a different perspective, I'm pushing 60, not as fast as I was 20 years ago but I'm not quite ready for the scrapheap, anyway when I'm on leave/day off they put one of our in their 20's early starting super runners on who finish at least an hour earlier than I do, fortunately they haven't started questioning why I can't do the same but having said that it's probably just a matter of time.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

1. Yes, you are not privy to all the medical details regarding the postie, nor should you be (as it would be illegal). The decision on whether they can perform their duties should be a collaborative effort between them and their manager, possibly with insights from individuals with medical, knowledge of equality law, or health and safety expertise.

2. Dismissal should never be an option. Presently, it is unlawful to terminate the employment of an individual who is capable and willing to continue working, provided the company can make reasonable accommodations. Offering overtime could potentially be viewed as a reasonable adjustment. Although they could be medically retired, this process is intricate and time-consuming.

[yubin282]

Theres 2 in my office that spring to mind.

One hasn't done a delivery in at least a decade - but can work 70+ hours indoors.

[Barnacle]

Is it right and fair that people with long term/permanent injuries/ailments, who are much slower at completing a duty, get paid significant overtime and therefore much more than other people to do the same job?

I totally understand that if you have certain physical health issues that you are going to be slower, but I am curious to know if there is any policy that should be followed in this situation?

1. Should they even be doing overtime if they have a long term/permanent health issue? and if so, who should decide this - the doctor, manager, postie?

2. At what point should they be dismissed, if someone's booking 1 hour extra overtime every day compared to multiple physically fit posties doing the same duty - could/should that result in dismissal if the injury has been causing them trouble for a long time and isn't getting any better?

I ask this question because I am hassled at work by management who claim I am too slow (when I am not), meanwhile the other postie who is a float for my duty is significantly slower and they pay this postie 1 hour+ of overtime to clear the duty. I have said to the manager - how can you tell me I am too slow when you are paying the other postie to significant overtime to stay out. They just tell me - 'well, she has an ongoing injury'.

Doing overtime when you have an ‘ongoing injury’ is a strange one.

Aside from that, I see the problem here being the manager hassling YOU for being too slow?! What’s that about?

[Sean06]

Is it right and fair that people with long term/permanent injuries/ailments, who are much slower at completing a duty, get paid significant overtime and therefore much more than other people to do the same job?

I totally understand that if you have certain physical health issues that you are going to be slower, but I am curious to know if there is any policy that should be followed in this situation?

1. Should they even be doing overtime if they have a long term/permanent health issue? and if so, who should decide this - the doctor, manager, postie?

2. At what point should they be dismissed, if someone's booking 1 hour extra overtime every day compared to multiple physically fit posties doing the same duty - could/should that result in dismissal if the injury has been causing them trouble for a long time and isn't getting any better?

I ask this question because I am hassled at work by management who claim I am too slow (when I am not), meanwhile the other postie who is a float for my duty is significantly slower and they pay this postie 1 hour+ of overtime to clear the duty. I have said to the manager - how can you tell me I am too slow when you are paying the other postie to significant overtime to stay out. They just tell me - 'well, she has an ongoing injury'.

Doing overtime when you have an ‘ongoing injury’ is a strange one.

Aside from that, I see the problem here being the manager hassling YOU for being too slow?! What’s that about?

Why is doing ot with 'an ongoing injury strange' ever heard of dda.read tbt's post above might not seem so strange an will get full backing from the health service provider for rm.how do i know been there done that

[Barnacle]

Is it right and fair that people with long term/permanent injuries/ailments, who are much slower at completing a duty, get paid significant overtime and therefore much more than other people to do the same job?

I totally understand that if you have certain physical health issues that you are going to be slower, but I am curious to know if there is any policy that should be followed in this situation?

1. Should they even be doing overtime if they have a long term/permanent health issue? and if so, who should decide this - the doctor, manager, postie?

2. At what point should they be dismissed, if someone's booking 1 hour extra overtime every day compared to multiple physically fit posties doing the same duty - could/should that result in dismissal if the injury has been causing them trouble for a long time and isn't getting any better?

I ask this question because I am hassled at work by management who claim I am too slow (when I am not), meanwhile the other postie who is a float for my duty is significantly slower and they pay this postie 1 hour+ of overtime to clear the duty. I have said to the manager - how can you tell me I am too slow when you are paying the other postie to significant overtime to stay out. They just tell me - 'well, she has an ongoing injury'.

Doing overtime when you have an ‘ongoing injury’ is a strange one.

Aside from that, I see the problem here being the manager hassling YOU for being too slow?! What’s that about?

Why is doing ot with 'an ongoing injury strange' ever heard of dda.read tbt's post above might not seem so strange an will get full backing from the health service provider for rm.how do i know been there done that

It’s counterintuitive. That’s why it’s a strange one.

[broughts]

We have some people coming back from long term sick on rehab say 4 hours a day then there in the mail center on ot its mind boggling

[TrueBlueTerrier]

We have some people coming back from long term sick on rehab say 4 hours a day then there in the mail center on ot its mind boggling

It might seem mind-boggling, but it could be seen as a fair accommodation to facilitate their return to work. In my personal experience, it is far less strenuous physically in a Mail Centre. Additionally, coming back from long-term sick they may be facing financial difficulties, I certainly wouldn't begrudge them working extra hours if they need to.

[broughts]

So u work 20 hours on rehab paid for 37 then book ot on top and get paid over and above the 37 hours sorry but that’s just not right

[Barnacle]

So u work 20 hours on rehab paid for 37 then book ot on top and get paid over and above the 37 hours sorry but that’s just not right

Sounds like 17hours are ghost hours every week. While I can understand someone with an injury/ailment taking longer to finish and being accommodated, doing OT when you are ghosting half your contract hours seems more than a little wrong.

[broughts]

More ghosting than scooby doo

[Sean06]

We have some people coming back from long term sick on rehab say 4 hours a day then there in the mail center on ot its mind boggling

It might seem mind-boggling, but it could be seen as a fair accommodation to facilitate their return to work. In my personal experience, it is far less strenuous physically in a Mail Centre. Additionally, coming back from long-term sick they may be facing financial difficulties, I certainly wouldn't begrudge them working extra hours if they need to.

Not allowed to do ot while on rehab.