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POSTMAN
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Both threads have been merged.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Re: ACAS
Yes, I have my differences with Brother Ward but he has done very well throughout this affair. Fair play to him.BB brother wrote:Mr Crozier blinks first !
Looks like we still do have some allies in the government!
You have to say as well that Dave Ward and his team have handled it magnificently so far,lets hope we close the deal.
The Industrial Workers of the World. The union whose members never scab!
"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common."
"The working class and the employing class have nothing in common."
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pad
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ACAS-Climb down?
Key phrase in Express article "the government" has our shareholder finally told it's highly paid executives to talk? Good points being made about the fact that lower management are still putting the 'Business Plan' into place (later starts, collection reviews etc.). However, the entire point about this dispute and the main reason behind the Ballot result is that the membership TRUST THE UNION, we've dealt with change before and will now. But win/win means something for everyone NOT a pay cut for the membership and a massive Bonus for the Management. One word of caution the members won't settle for a form of words that Managers then ignore (Last Year?), any agreement needs to be carved on Tablets of Stone. P.S. Does anyone get the impression that the Chairman is distancing himself from current situation and is making Adam into potential fall guy?
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cruisey
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yes pad crozier will take the rap for whatever happens and it will be the end for him. leightons just hanging on til the end of his contract. he don't care. he'll get another board seat somewhere else.
the sooner leighton departs the better. the government need to bring in someone who understands the postal business. The union agree there needs to be change. If there were people in higher management of RM who actually understood how the process of the business works, we wouldn't be in this situation now.
the sooner leighton departs the better. the government need to bring in someone who understands the postal business. The union agree there needs to be change. If there were people in higher management of RM who actually understood how the process of the business works, we wouldn't be in this situation now.
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What gets me is that he is carrying out all this "modernisation" before he gets the machines in to do it. When the all singing all dancing machines are in does he want another 40,000 sacrificial postmen to jump on their swords. If he does we will only be left with about 70,000 RM employees in total.
Deliveries will be doing about 3 rounds and then going back to the DO to start the first one. The future is long hours, heavy bags, no sleep and less pay.
Boy am I depressed today.
Deliveries will be doing about 3 rounds and then going back to the DO to start the first one. The future is long hours, heavy bags, no sleep and less pay.
Boy am I depressed today.
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YOUR RIGHT TBT. MACHINE TRIALS ARE BEING CARRIED OUT IN OUR AREA AT THE MOMENT AND THE REPS GET A PROGRESS REPORT AT AREA :lfo :lfo MEETINGS. THE FACTS ARE THE MACHINES CAN'T RUN AT THE SPEEDS THEY WERE INTENDED TO. SO DUMB ASS LEIGHTON DECIDES TO TAKE OUT A QUARTER OF THE WORKFORCE BEFORE THE MACHNES RUN TO SPEC. THE MAN IS A COMPLETE BUFFOON WHO COULDN'T ORGANISE AN ORGY IN A KNOCKING SHOP. :lfo :lfo :lfo
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In my view.........
The rumour's I've seen on political sites are that Gordon brown DOES NOT WANT A NATIONAL STRIKE TO MARR HIS TAKE-OVER OF THE P.M. JOB.
He has contacted the "ORGAN GRINDER and his MONKEY" to make it clear
Also the CWU has played a canny game in NOT calling strikes , even though they have had the mandate to do so....Thus appearing to be very reasonable to the PUBLIC ( I have not had ANY of my customers say that POSTMEN are in the wrong...They have all BLAMED the RM )
Royal Mail are playing catch-up....writing to M.P.'s (after CWU had already done so....)
They are now trying to be the reasonable employer by going to ACAS......because they have FAILED to get their opinion over - that LATER DELIVERYS / JOB CUTS are good !
"Mr. Peacock & Mrs Slowcome" are showing signs of weakness......they have been PANIC'd into a step that previously they would never consider.....NEG. AT ACAS ! ( DAE FACTO - THE UNION)
BUT the CWU must be careful that RM dont take the inicitive, and get the PUBLIC ( and by definition the MPs - because they want the public's vote's ) on their side because the CWU was "stuck in the 70's and only wants to strike"...Walking away from the ACAS talks.....AGAIN, let RM (Blink ) walk away FIRST........
AUTOMATION was always on the cards at some stage......SLAVE LIKE CONDITIONS WERE NOT !!!!!
NEGOTIATION IS THE WAY FORWARD, but if UNCLE AL thinks he can break the UNION just because he run ASDA (where there was no real UNION power ) ........HE's IN FOR A BIG SUPRISE
His POLITICAL MASTERS will only want him while he is getting PUBLIC support.......
His SELL BY DATE might just be about to expire...
He has contacted the "ORGAN GRINDER and his MONKEY" to make it clear
Also the CWU has played a canny game in NOT calling strikes , even though they have had the mandate to do so....Thus appearing to be very reasonable to the PUBLIC ( I have not had ANY of my customers say that POSTMEN are in the wrong...They have all BLAMED the RM )
Royal Mail are playing catch-up....writing to M.P.'s (after CWU had already done so....)
They are now trying to be the reasonable employer by going to ACAS......because they have FAILED to get their opinion over - that LATER DELIVERYS / JOB CUTS are good !
"Mr. Peacock & Mrs Slowcome" are showing signs of weakness......they have been PANIC'd into a step that previously they would never consider.....NEG. AT ACAS ! ( DAE FACTO - THE UNION)
BUT the CWU must be careful that RM dont take the inicitive, and get the PUBLIC ( and by definition the MPs - because they want the public's vote's ) on their side because the CWU was "stuck in the 70's and only wants to strike"...Walking away from the ACAS talks.....AGAIN, let RM (Blink ) walk away FIRST........
AUTOMATION was always on the cards at some stage......SLAVE LIKE CONDITIONS WERE NOT !!!!!
NEGOTIATION IS THE WAY FORWARD, but if UNCLE AL thinks he can break the UNION just because he run ASDA (where there was no real UNION power ) ........HE's IN FOR A BIG SUPRISE
His POLITICAL MASTERS will only want him while he is getting PUBLIC support.......
His SELL BY DATE might just be about to expire...
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ACAS?
NOT SURE ABOUT THIS ONE - BUT WHY HAVE RM CALLED IN THE ACAS GUYS? SURELY NOT JUST TO TELL ACAS THAT 'THE POSITION HAS NOT CHANGED'. I MEAN, GIVE ACAS A BIT OF CREDIT, IF THEY HAVE A PEAPOD AMONGST THEM THEY ARE GOING TO TELL RM "WHAT'S NEW, WHAT HAVE YOU TO OFFER?". THE UNION SHOULD JUST SIT THERE ARMS CROSSED AND LOOKING INSCRUTABLE!
