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R5001
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Re: Picked a Walk But Nothing is Happening…

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Acca Dacca wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 18:04
R5001 wrote:
28 Jan 2024, 20:27
enskied wrote:
28 Jan 2024, 19:55
R5001 wrote:
28 Jan 2024, 17:16
A second driver can be added on the van check screen, just hit the +.

Sorry if that ruins anyones hopes of not "being allowed" to drive if the other person signed the van out. Yes you can both drive the damn thing.
Maybe so, but never seen that happen. And all okay until something goes wrong. If you haven't checked it don't sign it..or let someone else sign for you.
then check it. Where's the difficulty?
If there is an accident involving the vehicle who is responsible? What happens if both drivers blame each other? Im not a driver so genuinely dont know the answer to that.
If no one accepts blame, it would make its way to court, but between the posties, not for royal mail, they'll identify both parties that had the vehicle and be cleared.
You do hear, from time to time a wife took a ticket for a husband and the like, and at some point, it was discovered and they both got railed for it. So for both, it'll be better to be straight with the truth.

I also imagine in such a case, RM would separately take each into a room (With a union rep should they ask for them...) and a version of the prisoners dilemma would play out.
Acca Dacca
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Re: Picked a Walk But Nothing is Happening...

Post by Acca Dacca »

Whats the official procedure though? Should there not be an official changeover every time there is a different driver?
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SpacePhoenix
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Re: Picked a Walk But Nothing is Happening…

Post by SpacePhoenix »

R5001 wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 18:15
Acca Dacca wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 18:04
R5001 wrote:
28 Jan 2024, 20:27
enskied wrote:
28 Jan 2024, 19:55
R5001 wrote:
28 Jan 2024, 17:16
A second driver can be added on the van check screen, just hit the +.

Sorry if that ruins anyones hopes of not "being allowed" to drive if the other person signed the van out. Yes you can both drive the damn thing.
Maybe so, but never seen that happen. And all okay until something goes wrong. If you haven't checked it don't sign it..or let someone else sign for you.
then check it. Where's the difficulty?
If there is an accident involving the vehicle who is responsible? What happens if both drivers blame each other? Im not a driver so genuinely dont know the answer to that.
If no one accepts blame, it would make its way to court, but between the posties, not for royal mail, they'll identify both parties that had the vehicle and be cleared.
You do hear, from time to time a wife took a ticket for a husband and the like, and at some point, it was discovered and they both got railed for it. So for both, it'll be better to be straight with the truth.

I also imagine in such a case, RM would separately take each into a room (With a union rep should they ask for them...) and a version of the prisoners dilemma would play out.
Whoever was the last to sign for the van will be legally responsible
R5001
Posts: 308
Joined: 13 Jan 2022, 19:19
Gender: Male

Re: Picked a Walk But Nothing is Happening…

Post by R5001 »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 19:42
R5001 wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 18:15
Acca Dacca wrote:
15 Feb 2024, 18:04
R5001 wrote:
28 Jan 2024, 20:27
enskied wrote:
28 Jan 2024, 19:55
R5001 wrote:
28 Jan 2024, 17:16
A second driver can be added on the van check screen, just hit the +.

Sorry if that ruins anyones hopes of not "being allowed" to drive if the other person signed the van out. Yes you can both drive the damn thing.
Maybe so, but never seen that happen. And all okay until something goes wrong. If you haven't checked it don't sign it..or let someone else sign for you.
then check it. Where's the difficulty?
If there is an accident involving the vehicle who is responsible? What happens if both drivers blame each other? Im not a driver so genuinely dont know the answer to that.
If no one accepts blame, it would make its way to court, but between the posties, not for royal mail, they'll identify both parties that had the vehicle and be cleared.
You do hear, from time to time a wife took a ticket for a husband and the like, and at some point, it was discovered and they both got railed for it. So for both, it'll be better to be straight with the truth.

I also imagine in such a case, RM would separately take each into a room (With a union rep should they ask for them...) and a version of the prisoners dilemma would play out.
Whoever was the last to sign for the van will be legally responsible
I don't believe this would stand. The owner (RM) wouldn't be liable if they couldn't be certain who was driving, and having two drivers makes that immediately cloudy. There is a system in place for multiple drivers (The PDA) so signing a van then having my partner drive it at 90mph into a wall but I take the blame because I scribbled in a box, would be absolute insanity, and completely unstoppable, we both have keys. If someone nicks your car and crashes it, do you get the blame by default?

Honestly, if I had money to burn, I'd let a lawyer find out for me, but the reality is, be f***ing honest and the problems are minimal. EVERYONE will f**k up.
Acca Dacca
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Re: Picked a Walk But Nothing is Happening...

Post by Acca Dacca »

How certain are you that there can be two drivers without a changeover? Its the first ive heard of it and ive never seen any pairings that both drive do it - which some would if they thought they were allowed to.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next