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Merging with Royal Mail

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cantonkid1955
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Merging with Royal Mail

Post by cantonkid1955 »

How are the discussions proceeding,to merge PF with RM..?
Talks were started back in June to merge both businesses to deliver cost synergies due to lower volumes within PF,
What is the point of a PF van going to an address and 10 mins later,RM turn up with a smaller parcel.and letters.?
Initially ,Parcelforce was created out of Royal Mail Parcels with a view to selling the business but it was losing £1 million a day in 1998 so no one would touch it..looking forward to the new year,,with trepidation,,and thousands of job cuts..HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Deadly
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Re: Merging with Royal Mail

Post by Deadly »

Parcelforce would probably be more successful if they collected their work from Post Offices. I hear Post Office staff moaning on a regular basis that Parcelforce haven't turned up...again. So yes Parcelforce will probably merge with Royal Mail, as though we haven't got enough work on already :roll:
Barnacle
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Re: Merging with Royal Mail

Post by Barnacle »

cantonkid1955 wrote:
11 Dec 2024, 05:36
How are the discussions proceeding,to merge PF with RM..?
Talks were started back in June to merge both businesses to deliver cost synergies due to lower volumes within PF,
What is the point of a PF van going to an address and 10 mins later,RM turn up with a smaller parcel.and letters.?
Initially ,Parcelforce was created out of Royal Mail Parcels with a view to selling the business but it was losing £1 million a day in 1998 so no one would touch it..looking forward to the new year,,with trepidation,,and thousands of job cuts..HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Given the obsession with parcels at RM, it has been utterly baffling that they haven’t sped up the merging. Apparently, according to Martin Walsh recently, work is proceeding but there is a hold up with the PDAs not being able to scan both types of packing label.

That is their basic way of saying that all the messaging to customers and data collection has to be merged, which would probably take a while but still?! They are snail like.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Merging with Royal Mail

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Barnacle wrote:
11 Dec 2024, 20:39
Apparently, according to Martin Walsh recently, work is proceeding but there is a hold up with the PDAs not being able to scan both types of packing label.
Smells like bullshit to me. RM PDAs are quite capable of reading PF barcodes. We used to scan PF barcodes back when PF offloaded the Addidas stuff they couldn't cope with over to RM.
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Re: Merging with Royal Mail

Post by Barnacle »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
12 Dec 2024, 07:06
Barnacle wrote:
11 Dec 2024, 20:39
Apparently, according to Martin Walsh recently, work is proceeding but there is a hold up with the PDAs not being able to scan both types of packing label.
Smells like bullshit to me. RM PDAs are quite capable of reading PF barcodes. We used to scan PF barcodes back when PF offloaded the Addidas stuff they couldn't cope with over to RM.
That’s true but I can’t remember if they had been over labelled?
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Merging with Royal Mail

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Barnacle wrote:
12 Dec 2024, 09:08
SpacePhoenix wrote:
12 Dec 2024, 07:06
Barnacle wrote:
11 Dec 2024, 20:39
Apparently, according to Martin Walsh recently, work is proceeding but there is a hold up with the PDAs not being able to scan both types of packing label.
Smells like bullshit to me. RM PDAs are quite capable of reading PF barcodes. We used to scan PF barcodes back when PF offloaded the Addidas stuff they couldn't cope with over to RM.
That’s true but I can’t remember if they had been over labelled?
We scanned the barcodes on the actual PF label, there was no need for over labelling
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Re: Merging with Royal Mail

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
12 Dec 2024, 11:48
Barnacle wrote:
12 Dec 2024, 09:08
SpacePhoenix wrote:
12 Dec 2024, 07:06
Barnacle wrote:
11 Dec 2024, 20:39
Apparently, according to Martin Walsh recently, work is proceeding but there is a hold up with the PDAs not being able to scan both types of packing label.
Smells like bullshit to me. RM PDAs are quite capable of reading PF barcodes. We used to scan PF barcodes back when PF offloaded the Addidas stuff they couldn't cope with over to RM.
That’s true but I can’t remember if they had been over labelled?
We scanned the barcodes on the actual PF label, there was no need for over labelling
So a load of old bunkum then.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
ted_e_bear
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Re: Merging with Royal Mail

Post by ted_e_bear »

Barnacle wrote:
12 Dec 2024, 12:09
SpacePhoenix wrote:
12 Dec 2024, 11:48
Barnacle wrote:
12 Dec 2024, 09:08
SpacePhoenix wrote:
12 Dec 2024, 07:06
Barnacle wrote:
11 Dec 2024, 20:39
Apparently, according to Martin Walsh recently, work is proceeding but there is a hold up with the PDAs not being able to scan both types of packing label.
Smells like bullshit to me. RM PDAs are quite capable of reading PF barcodes. We used to scan PF barcodes back when PF offloaded the Addidas stuff they couldn't cope with over to RM.
That’s true but I can’t remember if they had been over labelled?
We scanned the barcodes on the actual PF label, there was no need for over labelling
So a load of old bunkum then.
I'm guessing you didn't find that surprising :chuckle
77SAMPOST77
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Re: Merging with Royal Mail

Post by 77SAMPOST77 »

The Parcelforce depot I work for has been delivering royal mail parcels for over 2 months now on a trial basis .

They actually scan better than our own barcodes ,

They do not send us enough though , only about 100 per day , we are short of work and could handle about two thousand a day .

Crazy that the posties are overwhelmed with parcels and we are short of work .

we could help out but the clueless senior management appear to dragging there feet , not sure why .
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I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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Idk
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Re: Merging with Royal Mail

Post by Idk »

Barnacle wrote:
11 Dec 2024, 20:39
cantonkid1955 wrote:
11 Dec 2024, 05:36
How are the discussions proceeding,to merge PF with RM..?
Talks were started back in June to merge both businesses to deliver cost synergies due to lower volumes within PF,
What is the point of a PF van going to an address and 10 mins later,RM turn up with a smaller parcel.and letters.?
Initially ,Parcelforce was created out of Royal Mail Parcels with a view to selling the business but it was losing £1 million a day in 1998 so no one would touch it..looking forward to the new year,,with trepidation,,and thousands of job cuts..HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Given the obsession with parcels at RM, it has been utterly baffling that they haven’t sped up the merging. Apparently, according to Martin Walsh recently, work is proceeding but there is a hold up with the PDAs not being able to scan both types of packing label.

That is their basic way of saying that all the messaging to customers and data collection has to be merged, which would probably take a while but still?! They are snail like.

We trialled this last Christmas, the parcel force ones got took off us as we didn't have time to deliver them and companies started pulling contracts.
ted_e_bear
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Re: Merging with Royal Mail

Post by ted_e_bear »

Idk wrote:
12 Dec 2024, 14:37
Barnacle wrote:
11 Dec 2024, 20:39
cantonkid1955 wrote:
11 Dec 2024, 05:36
How are the discussions proceeding,to merge PF with RM..?
Talks were started back in June to merge both businesses to deliver cost synergies due to lower volumes within PF,
What is the point of a PF van going to an address and 10 mins later,RM turn up with a smaller parcel.and letters.?
Initially ,Parcelforce was created out of Royal Mail Parcels with a view to selling the business but it was losing £1 million a day in 1998 so no one would touch it..looking forward to the new year,,with trepidation,,and thousands of job cuts..HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Given the obsession with parcels at RM, it has been utterly baffling that they haven’t sped up the merging. Apparently, according to Martin Walsh recently, work is proceeding but there is a hold up with the PDAs not being able to scan both types of packing label.

That is their basic way of saying that all the messaging to customers and data collection has to be merged, which would probably take a while but still?! They are snail like.

We trialled this last Christmas, the parcel force ones got took off us as we didn't have time to deliver them and companies started pulling contracts.
So at the busiest time of year when we don't even have time to do our own parcels they thought I know we'll have a trial to see how accepting even more parcels pans out....and it didn't work, you can't make this stuff up no one outside rm would believe they implement such ridiculous ideas
Barnacle
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Re: Merging with Royal Mail

Post by Barnacle »

77SAMPOST77 wrote:
12 Dec 2024, 14:28
The Parcelforce depot I work for has been delivering royal mail parcels for over 2 months now on a trial basis .

They actually scan better than our own barcodes ,

They do not send us enough though , only about 100 per day , we are short of work and could handle about two thousand a day .

Crazy that the posties are overwhelmed with parcels and we are short of work .

we could help out but the clueless senior management appear to dragging there feet , not sure why .
That really is ridiculous because we could really do with joining forces, especially now that Tracked is now the dominant postage label on parcels.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
R5001
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Re: Merging with Royal Mail

Post by R5001 »

This needed to be a thing a while ago. This whole parcel route s**t should've just been "give it Parcelforce" from day 1. It's literally in their company title, parcels. Some of the stuff we get through as "RM tracked" that clearly should've been Parcelforce is nuts. (I mean items so large only 1 fits on a York. Way above our supposed limits.)

Baffles me why they want to make an RM afternoon shift of parcels when... we have Parcelforce. Like, what the actual f**k?
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Re: Merging with Royal Mail

Post by Barnacle »

R5001 wrote:
12 Dec 2024, 18:26
This needed to be a thing a while ago. This whole parcel route s**t should've just been "give it Parcelforce" from day 1. It's literally in their company title, parcels. Some of the stuff we get through as "RM tracked" that clearly should've been Parcelforce is nuts. (I mean items so large only 1 fits on a York. Way above our supposed limits.)

Baffles me why they want to make an RM afternoon shift of parcels when... we have Parcelforce. Like, what the actual f**k?
Makes zero sense.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’