Work to rule wont work!

[truthteller]

Fraid the first time your told to perform a task a manger wants you to do and you dont. Your suspended, the office will (or should support you) then it becomes illegal. People who want a work to rule are deluding themselves if they think management will not try to get us out the door, then they can take the union to court.
And what about those members who are suspended, do we hang them out ot dry on their own cos the rest of the office only wants to work to rule.
Say yes and mean it, they only repect strength not weakness, and no I don`t fancy going on strike, but I also don`t fancy the rest of my time in Royal Mail cowering down to management afraid of the next set of changes they will be able to make unopposed cos we didnt support the union.

VOTE YES AND MEAN IT!

[POSTMAN]

Fairish comment there mate,have a look at the on the vans thread.
Understand about your comments about wtr,but it does work.
Yes they will throw s**t at you but as in my office and a few on here what's the worst they can do.
I done a 2 hr walk yesterday,bought half of it back and so did the rest of my office.
We've extra vans in the office now,drivers are being taken off their walks to cover this,their work has to be done by casuals of cluster reserves.
Managers are taking out walks.
There are not enough pouch boxs or safe drops and the job is completley f****d,the budget is through the roof.
If you do the job properly they can't touch you as is the case at my place.
Moral is sky high and we've never been happier.

Why would we cower,we don't at our place,the work comes in if it gets done it gets done,let them sort out whats left.
Maybe it's the caliber of manager or what kind of screws individual offices have.
Course they try it on but it never works,we do the job as it should be and they can't touch us.
As for the ballot,yes of course vote yes,a couple of days here a couple there,then back on the vans,who's gonna take the s**t out we leave.

There will only be able to make minor changes,if any,my place can't take no more cuts,nothing would get done.
If the work is constantly failing and not being delivered and we're sticking to our guns what can they do.
Ok then take a few walks out,we won't be working any harder or longer,quality will go down and the budget back up again.
Can RM sustain that in offices sensible enough to go on the vans,i think not.

Get everyone on the vans,get moral up,leave the work in the office!!
Let them sort the rest out!!
Save your jobs!!

Moved to Blue Shirts.

[side_door]

I do not disagree that you cannot refuse to comply with a reasonable request within your work hours.

The problem with this - for the screws - is that, if you cannot safely complete your duty within the hours allowed, there is nothing that they can do to compel you to work overtime. Unless you spend a considerable portion of your day standing around doing nothing, then managers directing you here there and everywhere won't make a difference. You can take me off prepping my walk and put me on one I do not know as well. Result, the one you put me onto isn't done on time, my own isn't done at all. As a manager you have saved what exactly?

I have a contract that says 30 hours. They cannot and they will not, make me work more. So if I have to for prep longer, I will deliver less.

In my DO at the time of SDD, so many hours were taken out of the office that it is now impossible to complete any of the walks on most days. We have also had considerable growth to walks since then, but the number of walks has not increased. Most people are claiming extended most days, and the only reason that RM have not been forced to sort out the issue is that postmen help them out by not following safe working practices - i.e. bag weights, checking mail while you are walking etc.

Yes there will be suspensions and victimisations if people work to their hours. But there will be victimisations and suspensions if they don't. This is the natural result of managers being pressured to meet impossible targets, it will not go away until it is proved to RM that they have had all of the productivity gains that there are to be had. Almost everyone understands that you can't get blood out a stone; unfortunately we are dealing with that minority of idiots who believe that you can if you squeeze hard enough.

[robd]

In our D/O i'm not sure what the ratio of part time to full time is ,but there are now more people off stack throwing in, than sorting the mail.
What's happened is as a full- timer leaves they've been replaced by a part time duty.
the problem being enough full-timers are coming in before their start time to prep there own walk and then prep a duty for the part-timer that
starts at 7.00/7.30/or even 8.00!!
It's given the illusion we can manage on the resources available,however the part-timers on 25 hours and 30 hours are being paid an extra 5 and 10
hours respectively to achieve this.
Now our DOM is threatening to only budget for the contractual hours to make further savings,given the fact the office is already run on overtime and
the DOM even has to deliver himself,how is this achievable?
In my opinion this is where the union should be attacking,one duty/one man,i mean didn't we use to get extra for throwing another walk in,and if they
think an A/G can do the job in 5 hours,why do we already pay them for 30.

[de-coded]

To work to rule at MDEC we would key what we see, not use our knowledge for no extra pay. Example if a mail piece said Nottingham, EX10 we should know to put ?10 as ex is not nottingham. Yet we are not recognised for using the knowledge we have built up.

This is something I am taking to our Union Meeting on pay, we should key what we see.

[Jessika]

To work to rule at MDEC we would key what we see, not use our knowledge for no extra pay. Example if a mail piece said Nottingham, EX10 we should know to put ?10 as ex is not nottingham. Yet we are not recognised for using the knowledge we have built up.

This is something I am taking to our Union Meeting on pay, we should key what we see.

let us know how it goes at the union meeting. its about time it was recocnised that we are now required to have some knowledge and we no longer key what we see like we did 4 or 5 years ago. its about time we saw some recognition of that in our pay

[POSTMAN]

Any thoughts on this from the new guys.

[Big Daz]

WTR would work in my office, but my office isnt the same as the next office up the road etc etc so the impact of WTR will vary!

We have rurals that book EVERYDAY managers/casuals would have to deliver cut offs.

[DirtyHarry]

A work to rule would have to be combined with at least one day's strike action , this really would set the CWU
cat amongst the RM pigeons.

[evilc]

To work to rule at MDEC we would key what we see, not use our knowledge for no extra pay. Example if a mail piece said Nottingham, EX10 we should know to put ?10 as ex is not nottingham. Yet we are not recognised for using the knowledge we have built up.

This is something I am taking to our Union Meeting on pay, we should key what we see.

The first rule still remains key what you see.

[evilc]

To work to rule at MDEC we would key what we see, not use our knowledge for no extra pay. Example if a mail piece said Nottingham, EX10 we should know to put ?10 as ex is not nottingham. Yet we are not recognised for using the knowledge we have built up.

This is something I am taking to our Union Meeting on pay, we should key what we see.

let us know how it goes at the union meeting. its about time it was recocnised that we are now required to have some knowledge and we no longer key what we see like we did 4 or 5 years ago. its about time we saw some recognition of that in our pay

I am an ex phg and the job requires the same knowledge as it did when it was performed at mail centres.