What am i doing wrong?

[Rage24]

Out at 10, (same as most in office) two of us had 150 tracked, around 50 1st class letters, only did one loop each, skipped break and went over by 10 minutes and absolutely lashed round.

Yet this isnt even that much to a lot of people.

[SMS1969]

Out at 10, (same as most in office) two of us had 150 tracked, around 50 1st class letters, only did one loop each, skipped break and went over by 10 minutes and absolutely lashed round.

Yet this isnt even that much to a lot of people.

You are doing two things wrong. You are skipping your break and you are rushing around. Dont do it for these fools.

[fadetogrey63]

Out at 10, (same as most in office) two of us had 150 tracked, around 50 1st class letters, only did one loop each, skipped break and went over by 10 minutes and absolutely lashed round.

Yet this isnt even that much to a lot of people.

We had around the same with packets off both walks and oversized for one walk.. we did it all, Inc one whole walk, didn't even take out any mail from the 2nd walk, only 1st class, .. left at 9:20 back at 2, twenty mins before fin time.

[BenacreNick]

Is there any way to get out around 9 o'clock Rage ?

[A2B]

Is there any way to get out around 9 o'clock Rage ?

That would all depend on what time you start surely

I doubt there are many offices starting delivery at 9am these days

[Mr Rush]

I doubt there are many offices starting delivery at 9am these days

Whenever I'm down South I've seen colleagues out between 0900 and 0930. Pretty upsetting to see that on a Saturday since up here at the wrong end of the M6/M74, with current workload, it's almost noon by the time we hit the street.

[Rage24]

Is there any way to get out around 9 o'clock Rage ?

No chance, nobody in our office does.

My start time today is 7.45 (im full time)

I work with a part timer. So i prep two duties as well.

[Rve83ndxd]

Is there any way to get out around 9 o'clock Rage ?

Sometimes we get out around 920. 7 o'clock start.

[WalkerX]

Out at 10, (same as most in office) two of us had 150 tracked, around 50 1st class letters, only did one loop each, skipped break and went over by 10 minutes and absolutely lashed round.

Yet this isnt even that much to a lot of people.

and this is NOW. Imagine what it`ll be like in a few weeks. This is unmanageable. Don`t skip your break. You need nutrition, and a rest from the mental exertion. You`re not doing anything "wrong". Every walk has different characteristics. Some get absolutely caned on parcels, others not so much. RM management (mismanagement) has brought us to this point. Take your break, score the overtime (they have a war-chest to pay for it). OR bring it back and let the post build up, and watch the managers run around panicking. This is THEIR s**t-show, they get paid well, and they`re only interested in the fat bonus. Pace yourself, or you`ll be in a serious mental and physical state by the time you`re off for Christmas. You don`t owe this lot ANYTHING.

[TooManyLoops]

Skipping your break

Did you inform your manager that there was too much work and not enough time to complete it?

[Perseus]

Out at 10, (same as most in office) two of us had 150 tracked, around 50 1st class letters, only did one loop each, skipped break and went over by 10 minutes and absolutely lashed round.

Yet this isnt even that much to a lot of people.

You missed out the important part when you say how much time you have to complete those 150 tracked and 50 1st class.

[Basildon Bond]

Out at 10, (same as most in office) two of us had 150 tracked, around 50 1st class letters, only did one loop each, skipped break and went over by 10 minutes and absolutely lashed round.

Yet this isnt even that much to a lot of people.

Understand the repetitive nature of the job. Small (micro) delays add up. Micro savings also add up. You don't need to be trashing the van, parking on street corners, driving up one way streets and through red lights etc. to gain time back. You can fill the card in fully too.

I'll assume you cannot do much about the 50 letters. I'll assume you are about as quick as can be with those (but if you're fumbling the letterbox flap work on that too).

So for the tracked that may/may not go through the box... get your average time per drop for those 150 tracked down by four seconds and you'll have ten minutes back at the end (150 tracked x 4 seconds / 60 seconds = 10 minutes).

1 elephant, 2, elephant, 3 elephant, 4 elephant. Four seconds average - more for some; less for others.

Have your 739 cards easy to pull just one out; pen ready too; walk to the door looking for where you could leave the item or decide you will not be leaving it (is the house on a quiet street, or opposite a school with kids watching etc.); knock loudly; count to 10 max; wet your fingers and pull out one card click the pen and fill out the card; post and leave with the parcel or leave the parcel in the spot your saw when entering the property. Don't walk up or down the steps from the door to go over to the bins, and pull one bin out and pop it behind, only to walk back over and up/down the steps to fumble three cards out of your inside coat pocket and hunt for a pen, then fumble putting the extra cards back in your pocket and write the card only for the customer to now appear, so you go back over to the bins to get the parcel, blah blah.

I may be teaching grandma but you're only looking for four seconds per drop to speed things up.

Micro savings. They add up.

[Rve83ndxd]

Out at 10, (same as most in office) two of us had 150 tracked, around 50 1st class letters, only did one loop each, skipped break and went over by 10 minutes and absolutely lashed round.

Yet this isnt even that much to a lot of people.

Understand the repetitive nature of the job. Small (micro) delays add up. Micro savings also add up. You don't need to be trashing the van, parking on street corners, driving up one way streets and through red lights etc. to gain time back. You can fill the card in fully too.

I'll assume you cannot do much about the 50 letters. I'll assume you are about as quick as can be with those (but if you're fumbling the letterbox flap work on that too).

So for the tracked that may/may not go through the box... get your average time per drop for those 150 tracked down by four seconds and you'll have ten minutes back at the end (150 tracked x 4 seconds / 60 seconds = 10 minutes).

1 elephant, 2, elephant, 3 elephant, 4 elephant. Four seconds average - more for some; less for others.

Have your 739 cards easy to pull just one out; pen ready too; walk to the door looking for where you could leave the item or decide you will not be leaving it (is the house on a quiet street, or opposite a school with kids watching etc.); knock loudly; count to 10 max; wet your fingers and pull out one card click the pen and fill out the card; post and leave with the parcel or leave the parcel in the spot your saw when entering the property. Don't walk up or down the steps from the door to go over to the bins, and pull one bin out and pop it behind, only to walk back over and up/down the steps to fumble three cards out of your inside coat pocket and hunt for a pen, then fumble putting the extra cards back in your pocket and write the card only for the customer to now appear, so you go back over to the bins to get the parcel, blah blah.

I may be teaching grandma but you're only looking for four seconds per drop to speed things up.

Micro savings. They add up.

[thefox]

Out at 10, (same as most in office) two of us had 150 tracked, around 50 1st class letters, only did one loop each, skipped break and went over by 10 minutes and absolutely lashed round.

Yet this isnt even that much to a lot of people.

and this is NOW. Imagine what it`ll be like in a few weeks. This is unmanageable. Don`t skip your break. You need nutrition, and a rest from the mental exertion. You`re not doing anything "wrong". Every walk has different characteristics. Some get absolutely caned on parcels, others not so much. RM management (mismanagement) has brought us to this point. Take your break, score the overtime (they have a war-chest to pay for it). OR bring it back and let the post build up, and watch the managers run around panicking. This is THEIR s**t-show, they get paid well, and they`re only interested in the fat bonus. Pace yourself, or you`ll be in a serious mental and physical state by the time you`re off for Christmas. You don`t owe this lot ANYTHING.

Well said.

[norris9]

At a guess you are only going to around 100 properties each as some properties will have more than 1 parcel and also maybe a letter too.

You could just bag up the parcels and letters as per the normal loops (which it sounds like you do) and surely complete in time without rushing. You're probably only visiting 1/5th of the properties on your round.

Some smaller loops may only have 1 parcel and a letter so 1 postie jumps out and does the parcel, 1 postie does the letter.


150 Tracked + 50 letters sounds like a breeze of a day as a van-share.


If you bring every single parcel back when nobody is home, then that's the only way you would fail to finish on time. If people have porches, doors away from view of the street, behind plant pots then most posties would leave it 'safe'. Supposedly you shouldn't even do this according to Royal Mail managers....but....

They'd happily tell you that you are too slow and that X person could complete in time no problems....and X person is always someone you know who doorsteps. Royal Mail managers 100% want you to doorstep where it's logical to do so. If posties didn't - then loads would come back everyday.