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Prioritising first class letters

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Emohawk
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Prioritising first class letters

Post by Emohawk »

Afternoon.

So, we have now been told that, if you can't complete your delivery, you should filter out tracked and all 1st class letters for deliver. Failure to do so will be dealt with under a conduct code.

Where do we stand on this ? Surely it's against the USO to treat some letters different from other letters? Is there any documentation that we can produce if we are brought up on a conduct?

NB! Our union rep is off sick at the moment and his cover is still getting his feet under the door, so not much helping that regards.

Thanks
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Thommo44
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Re: Prioritising first class letters

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We were told similar today, without the conduct part. They said they had done a trial exercise the day before and they only found 10 on each round. I had 32 on mine today, explained that I would need to drop a pair of loops to do them, they agreed and we finished 15 minutes late.
No way will we be able to complete packets and parcels, plus 1st class on a day the rest day is not covered. Like previously requested , when they did this on the tracked, they need to give us a written instruction on the priorities- they won’t do this
Hitcher
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Re: Prioritising first class letters

Post by Hitcher »

Emohawk wrote:
19 Sep 2025, 13:52
Surely it's against the USO to treat some letters different from other letters?
Are you joking? This is part of the new USO!
Rage24
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Re: Prioritising first class letters

Post by Rage24 »

On my delivery I do all the tracked which takes me upto my time, while my partner does a few loops, so they are expecting to you to do all the first class letters every day on the delivery too?
Trumanity
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Re: Prioritising first class letters

Post by Trumanity »

What's the point now if USO reform implementation has been delayed until after peak? Typical of this retarded company. :wave
TooManyLoops
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Re: Prioritising first class letters

Post by TooManyLoops »

Is this why everything is now virtually 2nd class? (redirections, DSA etc)

Are D2Ds 1st class :cuppa
FirstPost
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Re: Prioritising first class letters

Post by FirstPost »

I have enough T24 on my pairing to take me to my time, not touching 1st class letters
clashcityrocker
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Re: Prioritising first class letters

Post by clashcityrocker »

Emohawk wrote:
19 Sep 2025, 13:52

So, we have now been told that, if you can't complete your delivery, you should filter out tracked and all 1st class letters for deliver. Failure to do so will be dealt with under a conduct code.
We were given the same conduct code threat.
What they are asking is sometimes unrealistic and unachievable.
Nobody has been taken down the conduct route as far as I am aware.
It seems a fairly hollow threat.

If first class mail is failing that is down to insufficient resources.
There is only one person who should be conducted. The COM.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
Lfc1983
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Re: Prioritising first class letters

Post by Lfc1983 »

It's the same in our office, I am still unclear on how it should work.

On a busy day when I'm on my own should I do all tracked first and if I have time get the first class done or do them both together and bring back tracked and first class at the end.

Our manager seems to think if he says just don't bring back first class or tracked it's achievable. They don't seem to realize that prioritizing certain things the less efficiently your working.

If you just worked how you normally would doing loops and parcels together until your finish time, then bringing back what ever you had left you would get a lot more done than cutting off and driving round with letters and parcels.
yellowbelly
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Re: Prioritising first class letters

Post by yellowbelly »

Are Dr's/Hospital appointment letters 1st or 2nd? We can recognise them (sometimes they have an obvious return address or the NHS logo) but they don't have a 'class' indication on them, just the RM cruciform.
SkiSunday
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Re: Prioritising first class letters

Post by SkiSunday »

clashcityrocker wrote:
19 Sep 2025, 17:01
Emohawk wrote:
19 Sep 2025, 13:52

So, we have now been told that, if you can't complete your delivery, you should filter out tracked and all 1st class letters for deliver. Failure to do so will be dealt with under a conduct code.
We were given the same conduct code threat.
What they are asking is sometimes unrealistic and unachievable.
Nobody has been taken down the conduct route as far as I am aware.
It seems a fairly hollow threat.

If first class mail is failing that is down to insufficient resources.
There is only one person who should be conducted. The COM.
Are Households aka D2D classed as 1st class mail at your DO clash?
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Prioritising first class letters

Post by SpacePhoenix »

yellowbelly wrote:
19 Sep 2025, 18:46
Are Dr's/Hospital appointment letters 1st or 2nd? We can recognise them (sometimes they have an obvious return address or the NHS logo) but they don't have a 'class' indication on them, just the RM cruciform.
It's down to whatever service was used. iLSMs and I'd assume IMPs as well extract the high priority ones which get sent in separate trays to the DOs.
goldy2007
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Re: Prioritising first class letters

Post by goldy2007 »

Just work your time
Inform your manager you’ll likely go over
Stand up for yourself no one else will
Emohawk
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Re: Prioritising first class letters

Post by Emohawk »

Re D2D, the question has been asked.
I agree with the idea that filtering out mail means less work gets done but that doesn't seem to be an issue.
I would like something in writing to back up argument that this is against the USO. The new USO still insists that 2nd class mail gets delivered, just on a every other day timescales. We have routes that go four dates with just 1st class letters delivered.
As for NHS letters, they didn't have 1 on so not counted as 1st class. However, I was given some RNIB letters to be delivered as 1st class so it seems arbitrary.
And no, I work to my time and don't start before it either.
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thefox
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Re: Prioritising first class letters

Post by thefox »

Thommo44 wrote:
19 Sep 2025, 14:12
We were told similar today, without the conduct part. They said they had done a trial exercise the day before and they only found 10 on each round. I had 32 on mine today, explained that I would need to drop a pair of loops to do them, they agreed and we finished 15 minutes late.
No way will we be able to complete packets and parcels, plus 1st class on a day the rest day is not covered. Like previously requested , when they did this on the tracked, they need to give us a written instruction on the priorities- they won’t do this
Our manager said if running out of time then do tracked and bring back 1st class if necessary,no threat of conduct and not put in writing but said it in front of about 50 of us at a meeting.