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Non Drivers
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scoobydo79
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Non Drivers
Any one been told as a non driver that you are not allowed to sign into a van share duty as a passenger?
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A2B
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Re: Non Drivers
Not heard of it but not surprised. Are you in a pilot office and is this linked to the new way of working? Already been lots of questions as to what a non driver will be doing.scoobydo79 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 13:11Any one been told as a non driver that you are not allowed to sign into a van share duty as a passenger?
Have they given you options as to what walks are available to you? Are there HCT walks available?
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Peabrain22
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Re: Non Drivers
I thought royal mail would be looking at removing hcts..now that we are in a parcel driven world the hcts only fit in 30 parcels with the mail and packets..I'm on a hct duty and I'm thinking they will be looking me gone because it's parcels parcels parcels.hcts are great round the town but that's all they really are now a days .unless your close to the office all the time to go back and refill..
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tramssirhc
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Re: Non Drivers
Have you?scoobydo79 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 13:11Any one been told as a non driver that you are not allowed to sign into a van share duty as a passenger?
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
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Perseus
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Re: Non Drivers
They need to give you a reason, unless the specific duty you are after has been ring fenced or something?scoobydo79 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 13:11Any one been told as a non driver that you are not allowed to sign into a van share duty as a passenger?
Is it because they need minimum 3 out of 4 people to drive over 2 shared van duties to cover walker, driver, driver, and day off cover? And perhaps someone has already taken the walking gig?
Impossible to answer without context.
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Acca Dacca
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Re: Non Drivers
Why wouldnt you be? Many offices only have van share duties.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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scoobydo79
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Re: Non Drivers
Not Me . Talking to a postie on holiday here. He reckons his office is having things slipped in that shouldn’t be. Small office and no union rep and not pilot one either. Non drivers forced onto HCTs and 2 drivers on shared vans no passengertramssirhc wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 15:33Have you?scoobydo79 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 13:11Any one been told as a non driver that you are not allowed to sign into a van share duty as a passenger?
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Gary55
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: Non Drivers
It's only legal to have 2 postman sharing the driving on a duty if they perform a van check every time they change driver. Uninsured otherwise. The union has previously confirmed this. Also Royal Mail require you perform a van check every time you take charge of a van. Think of the time wasted if everyone performed their duties properly if they were told to work this way by a dodgy manager
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Perseus
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Re: Non Drivers
In the grand scheme of things that really doesn't sound that bad. I mean, there will always be a driver that knows the shared van route on it when the other is off.
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qwerty2
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Re: Non Drivers
Only one can drive so the other one is a passengerscoobydo79 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 16:552 drivers on shared vans no passengertramssirhc wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 15:33Have you?scoobydo79 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 13:11Any one been told as a non driver that you are not allowed to sign into a van share duty as a passenger?
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scoobydo79
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Re: Non Drivers
Very good point . Thank YouGary55 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 18:00It's only legal to have 2 postman sharing the driving on a duty if they perform a van check every time they change driver. Uninsured otherwise. The union has previously confirmed this. Also Royal Mail require you perform a van check every time you take charge of a van. Think of the time wasted if everyone performed their duties properly if they were told to work this way by a dodgy manager
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Perseus
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Re: Non Drivers
Have you considered that they maybe won't be swapping driving all during the day? Seems more likely that it's a case of management always making sure that someone that knows the driving parts of the routes are on it. No one knows for certain.Gary55 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 18:00It's only legal to have 2 postman sharing the driving on a duty if they perform a van check every time they change driver. Uninsured otherwise. The union has previously confirmed this. Also Royal Mail require you perform a van check every time you take charge of a van. Think of the time wasted if everyone performed their duties properly if they were told to work this way by a dodgy manager
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tramssirhc
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Re: Non Drivers
No this is not a nationwide policy.scoobydo79 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 16:55Not Me . Talking to a postie on holiday here. He reckons his office is having things slipped in that shouldn’t be. Small office and no union rep and not pilot one either. Non drivers forced onto HCTs and 2 drivers on shared vans no passengertramssirhc wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 15:33Have you?scoobydo79 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 13:11Any one been told as a non driver that you are not allowed to sign into a van share duty as a passenger?
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
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Acca Dacca
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Re: Non Drivers
Martin Walsh has said today that they will be trialing non drivers doing IPS/Prep of Mondays mail on the Saturday and also trialling them being ''van assistants'' to assist with delivery of 1st class/tracked to see which is more viable
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next