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[cuboid]

Hi All. I was working my rest day every week on S/A. There was a change of circumstances in my personal life and I was unable to continue working my rest days so I gave 4 weeks notice. My manager has said that if I come off my S/A rest days he will move me from my actual duty. This can't be right as my duty and overtime are 2 separate things. Any advice would be great

[NWpostie]

They can't remove you from your duty, it's bullying one for the Union Rep and if no local Rep available then escalate to Area Rep if necessary.

[qwerty2]

Hi All. I was working my rest day every week on S/A. There was a change of circumstances in my personal life and I was unable to continue working my rest days so I gave 4 weeks notice. My manager has said that if I come off my S/A rest days he will move me from my actual duty. This can't be right as my duty and overtime are 2 separate things. Any advice would be great

Is your manager called Richard head?

[Boracay70]

Pure bullying and intimidation.

Send him an email and copy union rep asking him to confirm in writing and request him to explain how this would be justified. That might get him to change his mind

[tramssirhc]

Hi All. I was working my rest day every week on S/A. There was a change of circumstances in my personal life and I was unable to continue working my rest days so I gave 4 weeks notice. My manager has said that if I come off my S/A rest days he will move me from my actual duty. This can't be right as my duty and overtime are 2 separate things. Any advice would be great

Scheduled Attendance is for unconditioned hours not rest day working. Your rep should never have agreed this resourcing method. If you are unable to work then so be it. If you are moved from your regular duty you will need notice of any changes to your hours and rest days. Ultimately whatever your told to do during your normal working time within your skill set is a reasonable request.

[michael147]

Ah yes, the old reasonable request!
I accept that being asked to do something within your skill set is indeed that.
However, surely there has to be some sort of reasoning behind it?
If A has round 1 as a duty, and B round 2 as a duty yet both know each others surely you cannot switch them round for the hell of it?
We used to have these sort of discussions and believe it or not in my 30+ years with the business we have had half decent managers sometimes.
These people will give you a reason, i remember one saying that he did not have to justify his decision to me.
The retort to that is to say `perhaps not, but is there any reason why you cannot tell me? Its a reasonable request but also a reasonable question.
It does however surprise me how glued to their own duties some people are.
Back in my PHG days i used to do the duty sheet sometimes as we are an office of only 40 people and sometimes it was me and my oppo PHG who basically ran the office.
Sickness and leave sometimes led to a situation where i would ask someone to do another duty (which they knew well, same attendance hours) just to help cover a really sticky situation and i would not ask if there were another solution.
Cue (from some) an absolute ballistic response as if i had asked them to push rocks up a mountain for 8 hours on that day!

[smok3y666]

4 weeks notice to let your manager you know you aren't working your rest day? We have people just not turn up on their rest day when they've agreed to come in and no one gives a f**k. I've even known people come in and 5 minutes later tell the manager they're going home and sweet F A has been done or said about it. Your manager sounds like a cock.

[Perseus]

This looks like the downside to these 'work your day off on S/A' arrangements that I've heard some offices do. Apart from where people find the energy to do it 46 plus weeks of the year, it must be a managers dream to resource. Sounds like the manager has gotten annoyed at losing someone doing the 5+1 system and decided to replace them with someone else who will.

[Londonsburning]

The only reason I can think of agreeing to work your day off as 'scheduled' is getting paid the extra money when you're on holiday. Nowadays if you work your day off every week you get that payment anyway.

[Perseus]

The only reason I can think of agreeing to work your day off as 'scheduled' is getting paid the extra money when you're on holiday. Nowadays if you work your day off every week you get that payment anyway.

S/A rate for overtime is higher than standard overtime rate.

Plus it also puts you at the front of the queue for any overtime, pretty much guaranteed.
As I've said, it must be a managers dream to resource and in this case they aren't happy about the OP exercising their right to stop doing it.

[Londonsburning]

The only reason I can think of agreeing to work your day off as 'scheduled' is getting paid the extra money when you're on holiday. Nowadays if you work your day off every week you get that payment anyway.

S/A rate for overtime is higher than standard overtime rate.

Plus it also puts you at the front of the queue for any overtime, pretty much guaranteed.
As I've said, it must be a managers dream to resource and in this case they aren't happy about the OP exercising their right to stop doing it.

I've never seen day off scheduled in a delivery office to cover your own walk tbh. That would not put you at the front of the queue anyways. Are you in a DO?
S/A for any delivery OPGs has always been collections at the local MC

[Perseus]

The only reason I can think of agreeing to work your day off as 'scheduled' is getting paid the extra money when you're on holiday. Nowadays if you work your day off every week you get that payment anyway.

S/A rate for overtime is higher than standard overtime rate.

Plus it also puts you at the front of the queue for any overtime, pretty much guaranteed.
As I've said, it must be a managers dream to resource and in this case they aren't happy about the OP exercising their right to stop doing it.

I've never seen day off scheduled in a delivery office to cover your own walk tbh. That would not put you at the front of the queue anyways. Are you in a DO?
S/A for any delivery OPGs has always been collections at the local MC

It's a known thing in some offices. It was certainly still running a couple of years ago.
They work their 5 days per week and cover their own duty on S/A on the 6th day. Without it, they would need to reply on standard overtime to cover their day off, so you can easily argue it gets them first pick of extra £.

[Londonsburning]

How many extra pennies on top of the 7.5 hours wage do they earn for the privilege?

[Perseus]

Not much extra, but that is a side point. It's pre booked guaranteed overtime rather than ad hoc 'Can you work you day off this week' requests.

[cuboid]

Hi All. I was working my rest day every week on S/A. There was a change of circumstances in my personal life and I was unable to continue working my rest days so I gave 4 weeks notice. My manager has said that if I come off my S/A rest days he will move me from my actual duty. This can't be right as my duty and overtime are 2 separate things. Any advice would be great

Is your manager called Richard head?

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