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Nobody can realistically be a breadwinner as an OPG now

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Londonsburning
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Nobody can realistically be a breadwinner as an OPG now

Post by Londonsburning »

This job used to be great you could make enough money to support your family by doing some extra delivery on an 'enhanced rate' agreement, covering a walk on your day off, scheduled attendance collections, Sundays at the local MC, early IPS after they got rid of the nightshift duties at DOs. A livable wage was easily achievable.

This £1 above minimum wage 30 hour contract nonsense is actually poverty wages. Nobody can survive on that now. The shameful destruction of Royal Mail and it's workforce at full pelt.
Idk
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Re: Nobody can realistically be a breadwinner as an OPG now

Post by Idk »

Turn it in, welcome to the real world, before I came to RM I did plenty of of mine wage jobs and survived.
If you ain't happy you have the option to find something better paid.
claretandblue
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Re: Nobody can realistically be a breadwinner as an OPG now

Post by claretandblue »

I always thought that I'd leave royal mail one day and get a minimum wage job, I might even get a pay rise if I do :dance
sindba
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Re: Nobody can realistically be a breadwinner as an OPG now

Post by sindba »

Idk wrote:
21 Feb 2025, 16:18
Turn it in, welcome to the real world, before I came to RM I did plenty of of mine wage jobs and survived.
If you ain't happy you have the option to find something better paid.
Why did you come to RM rather than getting a job with better pay?
Shirtbuttons
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Re: Nobody can realistically be a breadwinner as an OPG now

Post by Shirtbuttons »

The problem is the ones who think it’s an ok wage have nothing. They live with parents or a one bed rented flat or room in a shared house. They can’t afford a car and very rarely have holidays. This is actual fact in my area. If we were up north I could live like a lord but try the south where the average wage is £35k
Go and talk to the public and get their opinion. Most will be shocked about the pittance we are paid. Oh well big pay rise in April, let me guess. 2% and big Dave will tell us that’s a good offer and the best you will get as they have no money. :nana :arrrghhh
Mike G
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Re: Nobody can realistically be a breadwinner as an OPG now

Post by Mike G »

When I started the job OPG pay was almost treble the then minimum wage.

What is it now? Less than £2 above minimum wage?

I know a few retired posties who supported their families on a single postie wage and now also enjoy a very financially comfortable retirement, those days are certainly long gone.
fadetogrey63
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Re: Nobody can realistically be a breadwinner as an OPG now

Post by fadetogrey63 »

Go and talk to the public and get their opinion. Most will be shocked about the pittance we are paid. Oh well big pay rise in April, let me guess. 2% and big Dave will tell us that’s a good offer and the best you will get as they have no money. :nana :arrrghhh
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Yeah this is true, the public do think we are on a lot more, even my family were shocked at how low the new contract wage is, and most of the public have no idea just how much we do for this low wage
twoloops
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Re: Nobody can realistically be a breadwinner as an OPG now

Post by twoloops »

I have noticed most of our one o'clock specials cost more to post than our hourly rate :left:
tramssirhc
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Re: Nobody can realistically be a breadwinner as an OPG now

Post by tramssirhc »

Londonsburning wrote:
21 Feb 2025, 15:51
This job used to be great you could make enough money to support your family by doing some extra delivery on an 'enhanced rate' agreement, covering a walk on your day off, scheduled attendance collections, Sundays at the local MC, early IPS after they got rid of the nightshift duties at DOs. A livable wage was easily achievable.

This £1 above minimum wage 30 hour contract nonsense is actually poverty wages. Nobody can survive on that now. The shameful destruction of Royal Mail and it's workforce at full pelt.
The workers share of the revenue created by the industry is nothing short of disgusting. And we are now on the verge of doing even more for even less. Never forget it's the CWU that has agreed below inflation pay rises time and time again.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
stars2025
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Re: Nobody can realistically be a breadwinner as an OPG now

Post by stars2025 »

the jobs finished now for sure that theirs no overtime anymore, no new starts will be sticking around on their shitty wage with no overtime opportunities and their shitty part time contract
Selhurst
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Re: Nobody can realistically be a breadwinner as an OPG now

Post by Selhurst »

Mike G wrote:
21 Feb 2025, 17:12
When I started the job OPG pay was almost treble the then minimum wage.

What is it now? Less than £2 above minimum wage?

I know a few retired posties who supported their families on a single postie wage and now also enjoy a very financially comfortable retirement, those days are certainly long gone.
37 hour contract is £1.44 above min wage this will rise from April 1st to £12.21 so what should we expect from a pay rise ?
norris9
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Re: Nobody can realistically be a breadwinner as an OPG now

Post by norris9 »

So what's a typical 37 hour contracted postie earning with no overtime.... £25,000?

So you can borrow 4.5x your income for a mortgage loan. In our case a lender would allow you to borrow £112,500. Maybe you are 30 years old and been saving for years and managed to saved £20,000 + your granny just died and you have now inherited another £20,000....

You have a £40,000 deposit and can borrow £112,500....allowing you to buy a property for £152,500....

You might be able to get a 1 bed apartment up north....but down south you are absolutely screwed.


It's not just the wage that's low....it's how ridiculously high property prices are. For a 3 bed family home down south you need £400k - £500k minimum.

Good luck owning a family home unless your wife/husband is a doctor, CEO, lawyer, Union general secretary, or OF model.
Sean06
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Re: Nobody can realistically be a breadwinner as an OPG now

Post by Sean06 »

Selhurst wrote:
21 Feb 2025, 19:48
Mike G wrote:
21 Feb 2025, 17:12
When I started the job OPG pay was almost treble the then minimum wage.

What is it now? Less than £2 above minimum wage?

I know a few retired posties who supported their families on a single postie wage and now also enjoy a very financially comfortable retirement, those days are certainly long gone.
37 hour contract is £1.44 above min wage this will rise from April 1st to £12.21 so what should we expect from a pay rise ?
Around whatever inflation is.
Sean06
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Re: Nobody can realistically be a breadwinner as an OPG now

Post by Sean06 »

fadetogrey63 wrote:
21 Feb 2025, 17:29
Go and talk to the public and get their opinion. Most will be shocked about the pittance we are paid. Oh well big pay rise in April, let me guess. 2% and big Dave will tell us that’s a good offer and the best you will get as they have no money. :nana :arrrghhh
Yeah this is true, the public do think we are on a lot more, even my family were shocked at how low the new contract wage is, and most of the public have no idea just how much we do for this low wage
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Why did you accept job then considering most on here think there is better paid jobs out there??public do not care what we are earning they just want there mail delivered on time. really want to KNOW where all these super paid jobs are without qualifications.
nuisance
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Re: Nobody can realistically be a breadwinner as an OPG now

Post by nuisance »

Also the fact that RM have pushed the times back. Lots of Posties had self-employed sidelines in the afternoons, that's impossible now.