Pay slip help

[Woody84]

I’m contracted to 28 hours a week but regularly go over that and once a week cover another person who is on collections and lock up so work 8 hours that day, plus once a week during the month cover him so 40 hours a week.

My paid hours are 121 which seems low to me as when decided over four weeks comes out at a tad over 30 hours. To me that’s wrong is it not? Or am I missing something?

[R5001]

From what you've said, it sounds low, if you're working 40, you should be paid that, but there are things to check: Are you claiming the time properly and ensuring it is signed off, does your contract include a paid or unpaid break and is someone assuming you skip it or take it incorrectly? (Unpaid but assumed taking it could knock of 2.5hours a week easily). Also, REGULAR pre-planned overtime (Scheduled attendance) still needs entering every single week, there's no automation on it.

Showing you a months entries into PSP is NOT difficult any any reluctance to do so would suggest someone is doing things wrong, just ask to see and find the problem.

Also if you've only just started doing this is the last 7 weeks and are monthly, it may well just be the lag on pay and entry (Cut-off is like the 20th for pay 30th, roughly. The exact days are on a sheet somewhere, I'll try and dig them up if needed.) and it'll catch up next pay day.

Gut feeling is someone is doing something wrong, but who is hard to tell over the whole internet. It'll make things a lot quicker if you can show which day you did what hours over contract and easily find the missing pay.

[Woody84]

Thanks for the reply.

I have been signing in on the pda every morning as per request of the manager. I’m still waiting for my ID card which everyone else uses to sign in and out.

I have been told I have to sign the over time sheet for the day/week I’m covering the collection and lock up guy, so I’m guessing that’s probably where the error has happened. Thanks for the help and I’ll be sitting down with the ‘manager’ who has clearly been taking the piss, which was my feelings all along but seeing the payslip just confirms it.

Another question, how easy would it be to get what I’m owed this month, as I expect they’ll say that pay has been completed and I’ll have to wait for it to go into next months pay slip.

[ted_e_bear]

I'm no expert but I think your paid hours are probably correct, taking into account it's monthly paid based on 52 weeks per year divided into 12 payments so 1456 hrs per year divided by 12 payments is 121.33 hrs per pay cycle so that looks ok.

What's definitely wrong is all that extra should be showing separately as overtime it won't be incorporated into your regular monthly payment.

You'll have to go through it all with the manager to ensure everything you've done has been inputted correctly.

I think that the answer to your final question is unfortunately no, I'm certain I've read on here that the monthly cut off day for overtime on that month's pay is the 3rd Sunday in the month.

Good luck, hope you get it sorted.

[derekm]

Thanks for the reply.

I have been signing in on the pda every morning as per request of the manager. I’m still waiting for my ID card which everyone else uses to sign in and out.

I have been told I have to sign the over time sheet for the day/week I’m covering the collection and lock up guy, so I’m guessing that’s probably where the error has happened. Thanks for the help and I’ll be sitting down with the ‘manager’ who has clearly been taking the piss, which was my feelings all along but seeing the payslip just confirms it.

Another question, how easy would it be to get what I’m owed this month, as I expect they’ll say that pay has been completed and I’ll have to wait for it to go into next months pay slip.

If doing overtime are you signing a 552 (overtime sheet) every time you’re doing o/t ? Surely someone in your office would have pointed this out to you.

[Woody84]

Thanks both.

As for the overtime sheet, I fill it in for any time I work over but not when I cover as I was told by the manager it’s long term and to just make sure I sign in on the pda. When I speak to them I’ll make them aware that I’ll be filling in for all overtime, whether covering him for the day or week from now on. I was most likely naive (or stupid is a better word I suppose) in thinking the manager wouldn’t tuck anyone up in regards to pay, especially in a role that absolutely no one else in the office wants to cover.

[Woody84]

If I’m covering someone once a week on their duty and collections and when they’re on annual leave would that be classed as schedule attendance?

If it is what should the process have been before agreeing to do it. Should I have signed something and would it show up differently on my slip?

If I’m also asked to come in an hour earlier every day would this also be classed as schedule attendance. Sorry for asking what may be the obvious, but coming from a self employed background I’m at a loss with a lot of it.

[R5001]

Honestly, not the most knowledgeable on the true difference, but as I understand it, Scheduled attendance, is effectively a semi-permanent agreed regular overtime (I.E you do x every y, each week.) (Notice is shorter than say, quitting entirely. I believe a month, could be wrong!). So if you cover x every single week, over your contract, that is scheduled attendance. Covering the odd day off is not.

With that said, Claim everytime on the sheet. The absolute worst that can happen is someone comes to you to say you're double claiming, at which point you explain all this: You've done regular overtime and not been paid, you want to ensure it is noted each time and will continue to write it down. The person entering the data will get prompted for overlaps, so it's their problem if they potentially double deal you.

If it's needed, union and ACAS is the main solution here. Union obviously needs a sub, ACAS does not, but if you ae a member, the union *can* be much faster if the involved manager is a c***.