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Overpayment

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Scotland1990
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Overpayment

Post by Scotland1990 »

Was overpaid whilst on shared parental leave by a substantial amount.

Was told they would only accept 100% of the payment back which would mean no pay for over 12 weeks.

I put in a grievance and was told 50% was the least they would accept and I felt they forced me into accepting that.


I have 2 kids at 1 and 2 year old and because of Royal mails barbaric attitude I am now massively stressed. Does anyone feel this is unacceptable?

I have been explained I owe the money and it’s correct and have no issue paying it back at an acceptable rate.
R5001
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Re: Overpayment

Post by R5001 »

Union and ACAS are your ports of call.

They should have no issue setting up a reasonable pay-back rate of say £50 a week, someone is being a bastard.

https://www.acas.org.uk/deductions-from ... erpayments
Smoothbackground
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Re: Overpayment

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I think you mean the least they will accept is 50% of the total overpayment made to you (ie they’re writing off half the overpayment)? That actually seems a quite decent result.

They won’t however deduct 50% of your weekly/monthly earnings to recoup it. Unless you leave the business immediately, in which case they could theoretically withhold your entire last paypacket, you will be able to spread the repayments out. It may have changed since I last looked into this, but I seem to recall that usually no more than 10% of any monies due can be recouped in any one pay period and that you must be left with a sufficient amount of take-home pay.
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Re: Overpayment

Post by antcpfc »

I thought the maximum clawback was 10% of your weekly wage?
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Re: Overpayment

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Should be around 10% gross pay.

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CWU Overpayments Recovery Procedure

As per, manager's full of s**t.

It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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pieoftheday
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Re: Overpayment

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Scotland1990 wrote:
27 Jan 2025, 00:25
Was overpaid whilst on shared parental leave by a substantial amount.

Was told they would only accept 100% of the payment back which would mean no pay for over 12 weeks.

I put in a grievance and was told 50% was the least they would accept and I felt they forced me into accepting that.


I have 2 kids at 1 and 2 year old and because of Royal mails barbaric attitude I am now massively stressed. Does anyone feel this is unacceptable?

I have been explained I owe the money and it’s correct and have no issue paying it back at an acceptable rate.
What have you done with the substantial over payment? Surely you didn't spend it knowing it was an error?
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Re: Overpayment

Post by Smoothbackground »

Come, let’s not be judgmental here. Life is bloody hard at the minute, not to mention too expensive. The OP has clearly needed the money to keep their head above water. My own energy bill was £266 just for a month…
Scotland1990
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Re: Overpayment

Post by Scotland1990 »

Smoothbackground wrote:
27 Jan 2025, 07:56
I think you mean the least they will accept is 50% of the total overpayment made to you (ie they’re writing off half the overpayment)? That actually seems a quite decent result.

They won’t however deduct 50% of your weekly/monthly earnings to recoup it. Unless you leave the business immediately, in which case they could theoretically withhold your entire last paypacket, you will be able to spread the repayments out. It may have changed since I last looked into this, but I seem to recall that usually no more than 10% of any monies due can be recouped in any one pay period and that you must be left with a sufficient amount of take-home pay.
No mate they want 100% of the money back which I understand. However they are taking it off me at 50% a week leaving me in financial turmoil. This was after a grievance as they were trying to take 100% off me a week.
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Re: Overpayment

Post by Smoothbackground »

Scotland1990 wrote:
27 Jan 2025, 13:05
Smoothbackground wrote:
27 Jan 2025, 07:56
I think you mean the least they will accept is 50% of the total overpayment made to you (ie they’re writing off half the overpayment)? That actually seems a quite decent result.

They won’t however deduct 50% of your weekly/monthly earnings to recoup it. Unless you leave the business immediately, in which case they could theoretically withhold your entire last paypacket, you will be able to spread the repayments out. It may have changed since I last looked into this, but I seem to recall that usually no more than 10% of any monies due can be recouped in any one pay period and that you must be left with a sufficient amount of take-home pay.
No mate they want 100% of the money back which I understand. However they are taking it off me at 50% a week leaving me in financial turmoil. This was after a grievance as they were trying to take 100% off me a week.
Sorry to hear this. Send an email to your manager and to HR making crystal clear they do not have your consent to claw back anything more than 10% of your wage each week. Refer to the policy linked above by Postman — that is what they should be adhering to. Tell them in that same email you’ll be contacting ACAS with a view to commencing ET proceedings for unauthorised deductions from pay.
pieoftheday
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Re: Overpayment

Post by pieoftheday »

Smoothbackground wrote:
27 Jan 2025, 12:03
Come, let’s not be judgmental here. Life is bloody hard at the minute, not to mention too expensive. The OP has clearly needed the money to keep their head above water. My own energy bill was £266 just for a month…
I'm not being, wel. I am a bit. Why would anyone spend money that they knew was paid in error, assuming that's what happened, I don't know if that's what's happened as the OP didn't respond to my question
Scotland1990
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Re: Overpayment

Post by Scotland1990 »

pieoftheday wrote:
27 Jan 2025, 17:02
Smoothbackground wrote:
27 Jan 2025, 12:03
Come, let’s not be judgmental here. Life is bloody hard at the minute, not to mention too expensive. The OP has clearly needed the money to keep their head above water. My own energy bill was £266 just for a month…
I'm not being, wel. I am a bit. Why would anyone spend money that they knew was paid in error, assuming that's what happened, I don't know if that's what's happened as the OP didn't respond to my question
It’s not what happened. I was off 2 years parental leave got paid the first one then had a second baby got Paid again for some of second. Dates were input wrong and apparently I wasn’t due any money second time.

If I knew I wasn’t due the money I wouldn’t have spent it.
pieoftheday
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Re: Overpayment

Post by pieoftheday »

Well that cleared that up then :thumbup