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Upcoming crackdown on SISO?
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SpacePhoenix
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Upcoming crackdown on SISO?
We've got posters on walls about have you scanned in and out, are RM about to crack down on everyone not scanning in and out at the official start and finish times?
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funkflex55
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Re: Upcoming crackdown on SISO?
I would expect them to at some point. It should be linked to payroll so you get paid for exactly what you work. What will probably happen is any extra minutes will get chopped off and if you're late too often you'll get a disciplinary.
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reddevils
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Re: Upcoming crackdown on SISO?
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Sean06
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Re: Upcoming crackdown on SISO?
They are more concerned about scanning in an out than what time you actually do it..no doubt that will change in the future.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑13 Jul 2024, 19:37We've got posters on walls about have you scanned in and out, are RM about to crack down on everyone not scanning in and out at the official start and finish times?
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Deadly
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Re: Upcoming crackdown on SISO?
We've been threatened with docked pay for weeks, nothing has happened yet.
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Acca Dacca
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Re: Upcoming crackdown on SISO?
new starters are on a higher rate of overtime - 1.25 I believereddevils wrote: ↑13 Jul 2024, 20:17They want to know the actual times people are clocking in and out of the depot.
In mail centres SISO is not so important.
In delivery depots we are being told any parcels taken out on OT must be
scanned on the route scanner like a DPR driver. They are saying we will
only be paid what the PDA says. This means we will only be paid for how
long the technology says it will take.
It has multiple implications. It discriminates against older people who may
not be able to get out of the van and deliver as fast.
It impacts on people who can work faster but want an incentive in order
to achieve it.
Increasingly in our depot they treat new starters as a priority for OT due to
their lower pay rate. This results in people on 26/28/30 hours old contracts
suffering as a result.
Crackdown on SISO is already impacting Morale in my office and people are now
choosing to work slower on their duties or maybe normal
instead of rushing around. Colleagues would say I will go 20 minutes
over to complete a duty for an hours OT are now refusing due to managers questioning
work ethic and refusing to pay anything extra.
I am only youngish but when we think of the world of double pay/triple pay/ weekend
bonuses/ extra pay why should we accept the bar has been lowered?
People need to stand their ground. Managers have just been paid a 3,750 bonus for us
to come in earlier. That money could have been used as bridging for new entrants to
be on the same pay.
Do not let them exploit you!
its their contracted hourly rate that is lower
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Basildon Bond
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Re: Upcoming crackdown on SISO?
Remember though that the x1.25 only kicks in after 40 hours have been worked in a given week. Before that it's just plain time. You can bet they'll be trying to push new starters below the threshold to do more right up to the 40 hours before the requests stop. Then next week the OT requests will probably start up again.Acca Dacca wrote: ↑14 Jul 2024, 01:09
new starters are on a higher rate of overtime - 1.25 I believe
its their contracted hourly rate that is lower
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LouBarlow
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Re: Upcoming crackdown on SISO?
How is this a thing? We have had to scan in and out for months and months at this point. People are still finishing early?
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Moose67
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Re: Upcoming crackdown on SISO?
The runners are still getting away with doing ghost O/T in their duties and then complain when they have more work out on their deliveries remember folks the PDA is your friend don't give this company anything anymore

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Barnacle
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Re: Upcoming crackdown on SISO?
The runners and ghosters are absolute fools who are killing the job.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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rubberbond
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Re: Upcoming crackdown on SISO?
If managers weren’t so desperate to get duties / parcels out, therefore paying over the odds to do so, the problem would not exist.
You can’t blame people who make time when it’s encouraged by stupid strategies , dreamt up by clueless senior management then implemented by equally incompetent local management that restricted recruitment which leads to staff shortages and therefore you reap what you sow.
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Tman
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Re: Upcoming crackdown on SISO?
Which can be boiled down to-
"you clock in before your start time, and clock out after your finish time" ie, just like every other employee who's punched the clock over the years in every industry.
Knack-all to do with runners, riders, ghosters or any other daft epithet.
"you clock in before your start time, and clock out after your finish time" ie, just like every other employee who's punched the clock over the years in every industry.
Knack-all to do with runners, riders, ghosters or any other daft epithet.
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Barnacle
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Re: Upcoming crackdown on SISO?
You don’t believe ghosts exist?Tman wrote: ↑14 Jul 2024, 13:02Which can be boiled down to-
"you clock in before your start time, and clock out after your finish time" ie, just like every other employee who's punched the clock over the years in every industry.
Knack-all to do with runners, riders, ghosters or any other daft epithet.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Barnacle
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Re: Upcoming crackdown on SISO?
Our DOM was comparing the work rate of pairs. So he was using the data to work out which was spending most of their time sitting in the van. PDAs are the enemy we are carrying.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑13 Jul 2024, 19:37We've got posters on walls about have you scanned in and out, are RM about to crack down on everyone not scanning in and out at the official start and finish times?
SISO data is just one part of how they are coming for us.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Perseus
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Re: Upcoming crackdown on SISO?
That's been happening for years. Your average manager has a huge amount of data available to them.Barnacle wrote: ↑14 Jul 2024, 13:34Our DOM was comparing the work rate of pairs. So he was using the data to work out which was spending most of their time sitting in the van. PDAs are the enemy we are carrying.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑13 Jul 2024, 19:37We've got posters on walls about have you scanned in and out, are RM about to crack down on everyone not scanning in and out at the official start and finish times?
SISO data is just one part of how they are coming for us.
As for SISO, it's hardly flawless.