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2 day election leaflet

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Broxi51
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2 day election leaflet

Post by Broxi51 »

I've been told by my manager that Labour have sent out a premium 2 day delivery leaflet for Monday & Tuesday.
Apparently RM are getting paid extra for us to deliver the leaflet in 2 days but we are not getting anything extra.

I was going to wait until the election was over but because of this latest news, I thought I'd ask my fellow colleagues on here.

Are election leaflets voluntary or mandatory? I thought voluntary since we get paid extra to deliver them but I never got asked
and they just chucked them on the frames and expected us to deliver. Can we say no, if it's voluntary? If it's mandatory then we shouldn't
be going past our time to deliver the crap and should be part of our indoor & outdoor work load.
The time has come to stop turning the other cheek, time to stop shaking our heads in bitter dismay, time to stop mumbling our angry words.
The time has come for union.
richietns
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Re: 2 day election leaflet

Post by richietns »

Broxi51 wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 16:36
I've been told by my manager that Labour have sent out a premium 2 day delivery leaflet for Monday & Tuesday.
Apparently RM are getting paid extra for us to deliver the leaflet in 2 days but we are not getting anything extra.

I was going to wait until the election was over but because of this latest news, I thought I'd ask my fellow colleagues on here.

Are election leaflets voluntary or mandatory? I thought voluntary since we get paid extra to deliver them but I never got asked
and they just chucked them on the frames and expected us to deliver. Can we say no, if it's voluntary? If it's mandatory then we shouldn't
be going past our time to deliver the crap and should be part of our indoor & outdoor work load.
They are mandatory and you are expected to go over your time within reason thats why you get the extra per item payment,you could see it as forced overtime but its not like its all year.
derekm
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Re: 2 day election leaflet

Post by derekm »

We have one next week as a door 2 door but obviously you can’t deliver them after Wednesday so don’t know what there plans are.
Mr Rush
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Re: 2 day election leaflet

Post by Mr Rush »

We've got it. It's a D2D (Whistl contract, thanks so much) so it is not electoral material and you do not get paid for it. As it is not electoral material and you are not getting paid extra for it, it falls under the standard cut off procedure.

We can do: super duper premium D2D or Tracked. Pick one.
The machine stops.
postmanpat
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Joined: 29 Jan 2007, 17:46

Re: 2 day election leaflet

Post by postmanpat »

Could we have some communication from the Union regarding this??
funkflex55
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Re: 2 day election leaflet

Post by funkflex55 »

postmanpat wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 17:19
Could we have some communication from the Union regarding this??
Cwu are sending RM a strongly worded letter and a packet of chocolate digestives to help negotiations.
derekm
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Re: 2 day election leaflet

Post by derekm »

Mr Rush wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 17:15
We've got it. It's a D2D (Whistl contract, thanks so much) so it is not electoral material and you do not get paid for it. As it is not electoral material and you are not getting paid extra for it, it falls under the standard cut off procedure.

We can do: super duper premium D2D or Tracked. Pick one.
Waiting on some bull s@@T from management telling us it’s a premium item so needs delivered asap.
thefox
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Re: 2 day election leaflet

Post by thefox »

We have been told we are getting the notmal 6p per item for this d2d.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: 2 day election leaflet

Post by SpacePhoenix »

It's about time that RM force all the parties to have all election postings as machinable addressed mail so that we can sequence them with the rest of the sequencing on the CSS
postmanpat
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Re: 2 day election leaflet

Post by postmanpat »

Dear Members

The latest episode of CWU Live will be broadcast tonight at 7pm and our special guest, Senior Deputy General Secretary Tony Kearns will cover the latest developments as we run into next week’s general election.
We will also have updates on the Royal Mail network changes, horizon scandal and a report from last week’s BAME reps meeting at CWU HQ.
It’s going to be a brilliant show.


Instead of arsing about with this, The CWU should be communicating with their Members and letting them know what the score is with this? :coolr

Or is that to much to ask??
TopperGas
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Re: 2 day election leaflet

Post by TopperGas »

All they will be talking about is why we should vote Labour and how bad things will be if we vote for anybody else, not that they can get that much worse for us, they'll be nothing about the pressure we're under with all the election material, the later starts and the shorter week due to the introduction of the summer hours.

Perhaps they should have sought another bonus for offices who clear all their election material, as RM can easily afford one from all the additional revenue they must be receiving. A
Broxi51
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Location: Scotland

Re: 2 day election leaflet

Post by Broxi51 »

An update from CWU Scotland Division.

Hope this is of some help.

"For clarification, the business has sold a service to the Labour Party for a 2 day D2D drop, similar to those we’ve done in the past in in previous campaigns, referendums.
I understand that the business has charged an increased rate compared to a normal D2D product, but I’m not privy to the details. Because of that and the two day delivery window, we are paying the appropriate pence per item payment as we do for candidate mail in this instance."
RM response to CWU
Disappointingly, they had not made us aware of this contract, but have confirmed it is for the Labour Party only and not the SNP. Thank you for your email, as it has now placed this on our radar.
As it is a shortened delivery window, the items attract the unit payments, which is to be welcomed. However, as Mark has pointed out to Royal Mail, the delivery of these items is to be completed within normal duty hours etc.
From CWU HQ
The time has come to stop turning the other cheek, time to stop shaking our heads in bitter dismay, time to stop mumbling our angry words.
The time has come for union.
A2B
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Re: 2 day election leaflet

Post by A2B »

Doubt we will clear the leaflets we have already, let alone a new batch 😧
enskied
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Re: 2 day election leaflet

Post by enskied »

I thought that it was illegal to prioritise one parties election material over another.
A2B
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Re: 2 day election leaflet

Post by A2B »

enskied wrote:
27 Jun 2024, 22:07
I thought that it was illegal to prioritise one parties election material over another.
Sounds like they paid extra for a priority service which they will doubtless not receive 🤔