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Agency staff stealing overtime

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pieoftheday
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Re: Agency staff stealing overtime

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PostMasterGenetal wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 08:59
In the agreement, agency staff have to be last resort. I have asked to come early nearly everyday , and have been told I can’t , because there are no vans and PDAs available that early. Yet, there would be if they just stopped one pertemps member of staff coming in and gave me the overtime instead.
As of next week you'll be coming in early everyday :Very Happy
koolishy67
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Re: Agency staff stealing overtime

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No problem in our office if you want to work over
smok3y666
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Re: Agency staff stealing overtime

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Thought everyone hated this s**t company and worked no OT anyway so what's the problem?
Shirtbuttons
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Re: Agency staff stealing overtime

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Overtime? What at less than your basic rate? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
postieblueshirt
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Re: Agency staff stealing overtime

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Everyone's in different situations but I live week to week and I just can't bring myself to do any extra as the lower wage for overtime is insulating.
PostMasterGenetal
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Re: Agency staff stealing overtime

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Lower wage???

You get paid overtime at your basic rate
SMS1969
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Re: Agency staff stealing overtime

Post by SMS1969 »

PostMasterGenetal wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 19:39
Lower wage???

You get paid overtime at your basic rate
The new starts will, those of us on older contracts will see a change to lower rate after 37 hours, then even lower after 47 hours. :arrrghhh
enskied
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Re: Agency staff stealing overtime

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PostMasterGenetal wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 08:59
In the agreement, agency staff have to be last resort. I have asked to come early nearly everyday , and have been told I can’t , because there are no vans and PDAs available that early. Yet, there would be if they just stopped one pertemps member of staff coming in and gave me the overtime instead.
Early hours OT doesn't equate to improved delivery at the finish of shift. Rarely do people get out quicker and deliver more. It's inefficient OT.
BigSacks
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Re: Agency staff stealing overtime

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postieblueshirt wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 17:07
Everyone's in different situations but I live week to week and I just can't bring myself to do any extra as the lower wage for overtime is insulating.
Will help with the heating bills in winter.
pieoftheday
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Re: Agency staff stealing overtime

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enskied wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 20:01
PostMasterGenetal wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 08:59
In the agreement, agency staff have to be last resort. I have asked to come early nearly everyday , and have been told I can’t , because there are no vans and PDAs available that early. Yet, there would be if they just stopped one pertemps member of staff coming in and gave me the overtime instead.
Early hours OT doesn't equate to improved delivery at the finish of shift. Rarely do people get out quicker and deliver more. It's inefficient OT.
In theory early hour OT should equate to earlier out but as duties have increased in size and silly amount of tracked for duties it hasnt helped at all. I wonder if cutting a dozen staff coming in early and having 60 staff come in early on seasonal hours will alter that?
postieblueshirt
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Re: Agency staff stealing overtime

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BigSacks wrote:
02 Sep 2023, 18:33
postieblueshirt wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 17:07
Everyone's in different situations but I live week to week and I just can't bring myself to do any extra as the lower wage for overtime is insulating.
Will help with the heating bills in winter.
:oops: stupid phone correcting me incorrectly....
Clappedoutpostie
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Re: Agency staff stealing overtime

Post by Clappedoutpostie »

pieoftheday wrote:
02 Sep 2023, 19:21
I wonder if cutting a dozen staff coming in early and having 60 staff come in early on seasonal hours will alter that?
Not unless they make the sorting area big enough for 60 people.
pieoftheday
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Re: Agency staff stealing overtime

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Clappedoutpostie wrote:
02 Sep 2023, 21:26
pieoftheday wrote:
02 Sep 2023, 19:21
I wonder if cutting a dozen staff coming in early and having 60 staff come in early on seasonal hours will alter that?
Not unless they make the sorting area big enough for 60 people.
We could treble the amount of IPS sorters, so 12 to 36, be a squeeze mind, double up on packet sorters, tracked splitting and large packet sorters, so in our office, yes. Who'd of thought RM might have got something right, well at our DO anyway
yellowbelly
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Re: Agency staff stealing overtime

Post by yellowbelly »

PostMasterGenetal wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 08:59
In the agreement, agency staff have to be last resort. I have asked to come early nearly everyday , and have been told I can’t , because there are no vans and PDAs available that early. Yet, there would be if they just stopped one pertemps member of staff coming in and gave me the overtime instead.
Playing devil's advocate here, if RM have engaged the agency member for a certain day(s) then they'll give them the work
whereas RM staff (such as yourself) volunteer for the work when you are able. From the screws point of view what happens if you
decide you don't want to and they've binned/sent the agency bod off somewhere else?
woody38
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Re: Agency staff stealing overtime

Post by woody38 »

PostMasterGenetal wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 08:59
In the agreement, agency staff have to be last resort. I have asked to come early nearly everyday , and have been told I can’t , because there are no vans and PDAs available that early. Yet, there would be if they just stopped one pertemps member of staff coming in and gave me the overtime instead.
Why would you want to stop people working, it’s not a us & them