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Attendance Standards

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HappyGuy
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Attendance Standards

Post by HappyGuy »

Ok, i know this may be controversial.
Something has always puzzled me about the Royal mail attendance standards.
In the middle of winter when its freezing outside and windy with rain.
I wake up with a stinking cold or flu and have to go and walk 10 miles in the appalling weather.
Yet if i worked in the mail centre i could have a crap day inside away from the elements.
However when it comes to attendance standards we in delivery are treated much more harsh. I know this is true I have experience of both workplaces.
thefox
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Re: Attendance Standards

Post by thefox »

This should be good😄
clashcityrocker
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Re: Attendance Standards

Post by clashcityrocker »

If you are indoors with a contagious infection you stand a good chance of passing it on to your colleagues.
On delivery you are outside, mainly on your own, and therefore less likely to catch whatever your colleagues have.

Working in a MC is far more dangerous than on delivery.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
HappyGuy
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Re: Attendance Standards

Post by HappyGuy »

Haha is that the best you can do?
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Attendance Standards

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Attendance standards are the same in both MCs and DOs. If you feel you're treated more harshly, then you need a better rep.

In a DO do you basically stay in the same work area? In a MC you can potentially find yourself being in every last work area over the course of a shift, so more potential for picking up colds, flu and other viruses.
Woody Guthrie
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Re: Attendance Standards

Post by Woody Guthrie »

Working in a MC is far more dangerous than on delivery.
I can only think you're trolling because that is blatantly not true.

There are roughly 100 people in my DO in the morning working in far closer proximity than in any Mailcentre section in a far smaller area.

These members then share a van with other members in most cases in a very unhygienic space.

Then they interact with all kinds of surfaces and customers while their immune system is depressed through fatigue and weather conditions.

Then there are the added risks from slips, trips and falls in places and conditions where no safety rep has ventured, dogs, junkies, vehicles, falling pianos etc...

The potential risks on delivery are pretty much endless because pretty much anything can and will happen in the outside world whereas the dangers in a Mailcentre are known and therefore should be contained.
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Barrybarry
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Post by Barrybarry »

Don’t forget driving the van with an headache etc very dangerous
A2B
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Re: Attendance Standards

Post by A2B »

Waiting for the first row when a postie comes into work but is unfit to go out on delivery.

DOM has no indoor work for them and wants them to go sick, postie says no as they will not be paid, who's in the right?
postieblueshirt
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Re: Attendance Standards

Post by postieblueshirt »

A2B wrote:
10 Aug 2023, 22:08
Waiting for the first row when a postie comes into work but is unfit to go out on delivery.

DOM has no indoor work for them and wants them to go sick, postie says no as they will not be paid, who's in the right?
The postie because il do exactly that.Il lay on my frame and sleep if I have to as long as I've scanned in.
postieblueshirt
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Re: Attendance Standards

Post by postieblueshirt »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
10 Aug 2023, 19:46
Attendance standards are the same in both MCs and DOs. If you feel you're treated more harshly, then you need a better rep.

In a DO do you basically stay in the same work area? In a MC you can potentially find yourself being in every last work area over the course of a shift, so more potential for picking up colds, flu and other viruses.
Sorry disagree with that in an average morning you can be on ips then sort oversized then box in someone else's sequenced or manual or put in there d2d spreading yer manky cold over everyone's stuff.
deadbox
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Re: Attendance Standards

Post by deadbox »

Woody Guthrie wrote:
10 Aug 2023, 20:23
Working in a MC is far more dangerous than on delivery.
I can only think you're trolling because that is blatantly not true.

There are roughly 100 people in my DO in the morning working in far closer proximity than in any Mailcentre section in a far smaller area.

These members then share a van with other members in most cases in a very unhygienic space.

Then they interact with all kinds of surfaces and customers while their immune system is depressed through fatigue and weather conditions.

Then there are the added risks from slips, trips and falls in places and conditions where no safety rep has ventured, dogs, junkies, vehicles, falling pianos etc...

The potential risks on delivery are pretty much endless because pretty much anything can and will happen in the outside world whereas the dangers in a Mailcentre are known and therefore should be contained.
Yet your a cheer leader for the deal that the union struck, I myself have attended work this week with a stinking cold , have infected a close working colleague who is now coughing and spluttering because I cannot afford to go sick just in case I get sick later in the year, all because I won’t get paid for any second absence I have if I’m unlucky to get contract a virus etc. you reap what you sow !
deadbox
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Re: Attendance Standards

Post by deadbox »

deadbox wrote:
11 Aug 2023, 00:05
Woody Guthrie wrote:
10 Aug 2023, 20:23
Working in a MC is far more dangerous than on delivery.
I can only think you're trolling because that is blatantly not true.

There are roughly 100 people in my DO in the morning working in far closer proximity than in any Mailcentre section in a far smaller area.

These members then share a van with other members in most cases in a very unhygienic space.

Then they interact with all kinds of surfaces and customers while their immune system is depressed through fatigue and weather conditions.

Then there are the added risks from slips, trips and falls in places and conditions where no safety rep has ventured, dogs, junkies, vehicles, falling pianos etc...

The potential risks on delivery are pretty much endless because pretty much anything can and will happen in the outside world whereas the dangers in a Mailcentre are known and therefore should be contained.
Yet your a cheer leader for the deal that the union struck, I myself have attended work this week with a stinking cold , have infected a close working colleague who is now coughing and spluttering because I cannot afford to go sick just in case I get sick later in the year, all because I won’t get paid for any second absence I have if I’m unlucky to get contract a virus etc. you reap what you sow !
Ps. He also has a heart condition! But under the latest deal, that’s his look out, every man go themselves now
Woody Guthrie
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Post by Woody Guthrie »

Yet your a cheer leader for the deal...
I was never a cheerleader for this deal.
I always made it clear I thought the deal was poor.

Like the majority of members I did realise that the union had played all its cards, achieved all it was going to achieve, the members needed some kind of resolution and the alternative to this poor agreement was much worse.

Not all positions are polemic despite what social media would have you believe.
Only dead fish follow the current
scotchy1962
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Re: Attendance Standards

Post by scotchy1962 »

deadbox wrote:
11 Aug 2023, 00:05
Woody Guthrie wrote:
10 Aug 2023, 20:23
Working in a MC is far more dangerous than on delivery.
I can only think you're trolling because that is blatantly not true.

There are roughly 100 people in my DO in the morning working in far closer proximity than in any Mailcentre section in a far smaller area.

These members then share a van with other members in most cases in a very unhygienic space.

Then they interact with all kinds of surfaces and customers while their immune system is depressed through fatigue and weather conditions.

Then there are the added risks from slips, trips and falls in places and conditions where no safety rep has ventured, dogs, junkies, vehicles, falling pianos etc...

The potential risks on delivery are pretty much endless because pretty much anything can and will happen in the outside world whereas the dangers in a Mailcentre are known and therefore should be contained.
Yet your a cheer leader for the deal that the union struck, I myself have attended work this week with a stinking cold , have infected a close working colleague who is now coughing and spluttering because I cannot afford to go sick just in case I get sick later in the year, all because I won’t get paid for any second absence I have if I’m unlucky to get contract a virus etc. you reap what you sow !
The vote is over, yes won the day. Democracy in action.
I am not happy about the result but raking over the coals and trying to use it to slap somebody in the face with is pointless. We need to put it in the past and concentrate on the task at hand, stopping RM tramping over the top of us that are still in this job.
The unions has little enough power to fight with and us scrapping amongst ourselves doesn't help.
I work in delivery and therefore think i have the harder job, somebody else works in MC and should think the same, you won't get a definitive answer as we all believe we work harder/longer than each other.
aiden01
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Re: Attendance Standards

Post by aiden01 »

scotchy1962 wrote:
11 Aug 2023, 07:34
deadbox wrote:
11 Aug 2023, 00:05
Woody Guthrie wrote:
10 Aug 2023, 20:23
Working in a MC is far more dangerous than on delivery.
I can only think you're trolling because that is blatantly not true.

There are roughly 100 people in my DO in the morning working in far closer proximity than in any Mailcentre section in a far smaller area.

These members then share a van with other members in most cases in a very unhygienic space.

Then they interact with all kinds of surfaces and customers while their immune system is depressed through fatigue and weather conditions.

Then there are the added risks from slips, trips and falls in places and conditions where no safety rep has ventured, dogs, junkies, vehicles, falling pianos etc...

The potential risks on delivery are pretty much endless because pretty much anything can and will happen in the outside world whereas the dangers in a Mailcentre are known and therefore should be contained.
Yet your a cheer leader for the deal that the union struck, I myself have attended work this week with a stinking cold , have infected a close working colleague who is now coughing and spluttering because I cannot afford to go sick just in case I get sick later in the year, all because I won’t get paid for any second absence I have if I’m unlucky to get contract a virus etc. you reap what you sow !
The vote is over, yes won the day. Democracy in action.
I am not happy about the result but raking over the coals and trying to use it to slap somebody in the face with is pointless. We need to put it in the past and concentrate on the task at hand, stopping RM tramping over the top of us that are still in this job.
The unions has little enough power to fight with and us scrapping amongst ourselves doesn't help.
I work in delivery and therefore think i have the harder job, somebody else works in MC and should think the same, you won't get a definitive answer as we all believe we work harder/longer than each other.
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