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Sunday working

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Gunner70
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Sunday working

Post by Gunner70 »

With the Sunday parcel deliveries, will it only be the 350 offices who will be working Sundays or will other offices have to drive to the main hubs first as our office's closest one is over half hour drive away , also how are we expected to get there .
ted_e_bear
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Re: Sunday working

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2yearpostie
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Re: Sunday working

Post by 2yearpostie »

Yes your office will take it in turns to deliver your sunday stuff from the hub, how you get there is your issue not the companies.
A2B
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Re: Sunday working

Post by A2B »

2yearpostie wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 09:37
Yes your office will take it in turns to deliver your sunday stuff from the hub, how you get there is your issue not the companies.
And you know this for a fact?
Woody Guthrie
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Re: Sunday working

Post by Woody Guthrie »

A2B wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 10:58
2yearpostie wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 09:37
Yes your office will take it in turns to deliver your sunday stuff from the hub, how you get there is your issue not the companies.
And you know this for a fact?
It's in the Q&As.
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yellowbelly
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Re: Sunday working

Post by yellowbelly »

A2B wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 10:58
2yearpostie wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 09:37
Yes your office will take it in turns to deliver your sunday stuff from the hub, how you get there is your issue not the companies.
And you know this for a fact?
I would have thought that as a PIC 2yearpostie would know that a distant office has vans that are not used on the
Sunday that a sensible PIC would authorise for the nominated bod to use to get to the hub and use for
the delivery or is that too simple?
2yearpostie
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Re: Sunday working

Post by 2yearpostie »

yellowbelly wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 11:34
A2B wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 10:58
2yearpostie wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 09:37
Yes your office will take it in turns to deliver your sunday stuff from the hub, how you get there is your issue not the companies.
And you know this for a fact?
I would have thought that as a PIC 2yearpostie would know that a distant office has vans that are not used on the
Sunday that a sensible PIC would authorise for the nominated bod to use to get to the hub and use for
the delivery or is that too simple?
Possible, but depends if a key holder is free every Sunday to open the local office to let the vans out.
Theres also the option of van Retention, but it depends office by office, Com by Com.
eastie
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Re: Sunday working

Post by eastie »

Just a thought.
I was thinking after 30 years to drop from FT to PT 32 hours .
If I do would my contract change to include Sundays or would it stay the same?
2yearpostie
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Re: Sunday working

Post by 2yearpostie »

eastie wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 11:41
Just a thought.
I was thinking after 30 years to drop from FT to PT 32 hours .
If I do would my contract change to include Sundays or would it stay the same?

All contracts are due to inc Sundays
Jack1960
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Re: Sunday working

Post by Jack1960 »

Our sunday hub serves 9 or 10 postcodes , its the idea to send 2 people from each of those offices to the hub.
chrisj
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Re: Sunday working

Post by chrisj »

What about non-drivers? How can they deliver parcels especially if the hub is not the same office. Moreover, Royal Mail wants to pay regular pay rate for working on Sundays. That will be unfair to have folks not working Sundays because they can't drive and those that can get nothing extra for it
Flashman_
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Re: Sunday working

Post by Flashman_ »

I don't get it, how are RM going to make people work Sundays if they do not want to. As far as I know my contract has never had Sunday working in it so unless they are going down the fire and rehire route they cannot force you.
Here is the quote from the Governments own website:
"A worker can’t be made to work on Sundays unless they agreed it with their employer and put it in writing (for example, changed the contract)."
yellowbelly
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Re: Sunday working

Post by yellowbelly »

2yearpostie wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 11:38
yellowbelly wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 11:34
A2B wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 10:58
2yearpostie wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 09:37
Yes your office will take it in turns to deliver your sunday stuff from the hub, how you get there is your issue not the companies.
And you know this for a fact?
I would have thought that as a PIC 2yearpostie would know that a distant office has vans that are not used on the
Sunday that a sensible PIC would authorise for the nominated bod to use to get to the hub and use for
the delivery or is that too simple?
Possible, but depends if a key holder is free every Sunday to open the local office to let the vans out.
Theres also the option of van Retention, but it depends office by office, Com by Com.
Yes each office IS different so a blanket statement that it's 'your issue not the companies' is just pointless.

You don't necessarily need a key holder either if the van is in the yard do you? You just need to take the van key home
the previous day or a spare key for a van if you're not at work the day before. Solutions are there if you're just willing
to see them.
yellowbelly
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Re: Sunday working

Post by yellowbelly »

Flashman_ wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 21:25
I don't get it, how are RM going to make people work Sundays if they do not want to. As far as I know my contract has never had Sunday working in it so unless they are going down the fire and rehire route they cannot force you.
Here is the quote from the Governments own website:
"A worker can’t be made to work on Sundays unless they agreed it with their employer and put it in writing (for example, changed the contract)."
I think that when CWU does our negotiating for us under collective bargaining, whatever the result of that collective bargaining
is covers us all regardless of whatever our individual contracts said when we started. I'll stand to be corrected on that though.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Sunday working

Post by SpacePhoenix »

yellowbelly wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 21:45
2yearpostie wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 11:38
yellowbelly wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 11:34
A2B wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 10:58
2yearpostie wrote:
31 Jul 2022, 09:37
Yes your office will take it in turns to deliver your sunday stuff from the hub, how you get there is your issue not the companies.
And you know this for a fact?
I would have thought that as a PIC 2yearpostie would know that a distant office has vans that are not used on the
Sunday that a sensible PIC would authorise for the nominated bod to use to get to the hub and use for
the delivery or is that too simple?
Possible, but depends if a key holder is free every Sunday to open the local office to let the vans out.
Theres also the option of van Retention, but it depends office by office, Com by Com.
Yes each office IS different so a blanket statement that it's 'your issue not the companies' is just pointless.

You don't necessarily need a key holder either if the van is in the yard do you? You just need to take the van key home
the previous day or a spare key for a van if you're not at work the day before. Solutions are there if you're just willing
to see them.
How do you access the yard to get to the van without the keyholder?