WHAT WILL THE ROYAL MAIL OF 2015 BE LIKE IF WE LOSE

[TrueBlueTerrier]

The question is in the title.

My feeling is that if C&L win this the union will be a thing of the past and more like a discussion group.

2 Posties on neighbouring frames will be on completely different pay rates and terms and conditions, and probably won't know each others first names.

Out of an office of 30 there will be 5 full timers expected to prep all the walks for the Sub Part timers on less than 20 hours (10 in total) and then complete a 4.5hr walk at a fixed rate with no OT. (I mean your paid a flat rate to do your duty no matter how long it takes). But if you finish before your contracted time of 5.00pm you have to come back into the office to get packets out.

The 15 part timers arrive at 11.00 have 1 hour to throw off their walks and 4hrs to complete it but they have no M/R built in as their working day is too short to get it in the contract.

The sub part-timers collect their bags actually on the delivery and have 4 hrs to complete again with no MR.

Also because of cheap DSA and the 10 D2Ds they have to do, the bag matrix has changed and the recommended maximum 1st bag is 22kgs. The high capacity electric trolleys were ordered 6 years ago but Royal Mail cant afford to get them for every walk as all mail is now DSA except for social mail.

Is this beyond the bounds of possibility.

[evilc]

The question is in the title.

My feeling is that if C&L win this the union will be a thing of the past and more like a discussion group.

2 Posties on neighbouring frames will be on completely different pay rates and terms and conditions, and probably won't know each others first names.

Out of an office of 30 there will be 5 full timers expected to prep all the walks for the Sub Part timers on less than 20 hours (10 in total) and then complete a 4.5hr walk at a fixed rate with no OT. (I mean your paid a flat rate to do your duty no matter how long it takes). But if you finish before your contracted time of 5.00pm you have to come back into the office to get packets out.

The 15 part timers arrive at 11.00 have 1 hour to throw off their walks and 4hrs to complete it but they have no M/R built in as their working day is too short to get it in the contract.

The sub part-timers collect their bags actually on the delivery and have 4 hrs to complete again with no MR.

Also because of cheap DSA and the 10 D2Ds they have to do, the bag matrix has changed and the recommended maximum 1st bag is 22kgs. The high capacity electric trolleys were ordered 6 years ago but Royal Mail cant afford to get them for every walk as all mail is now DSA except for social mail.

Is this beyond the bounds of possibility.

I can envisage posties being self-employed or like milkies have franchised deliveries. That is if we lose this current dispute.

[rhino49]

The question is in the title.

My feeling is that if C&L win this the union will be a thing of the past and more like a discussion group.

2 Posties on neighbouring frames will be on completely different pay rates and terms and conditions, and probably won't know each others first names.

Out of an office of 30 there will be 5 full timers expected to prep all the walks for the Sub Part timers on less than 20 hours (10 in total) and then complete a 4.5hr walk at a fixed rate with no OT. (I mean your paid a flat rate to do your duty no matter how long it takes). But if you finish before your contracted time of 5.00pm you have to come back into the office to get packets out.

The 15 part timers arrive at 11.00 have 1 hour to throw off their walks and 4hrs to complete it but they have no M/R built in as their working day is too short to get it in the contract.

The sub part-timers collect their bags actually on the delivery and have 4 hrs to complete again with no MR.

Also because of cheap DSA and the 10 D2Ds they have to do, the bag matrix has changed and the recommended maximum 1st bag is 22kgs. The high capacity electric trolleys were ordered 6 years ago but Royal Mail cant afford to get them for every walk as all mail is now DSA except for social mail.

Is this beyond the bounds of possibility.

I can envisage posties being self-employed or like milkies have franchised deliveries. That is if we lose this current dispute.

Or they may already be in discussion with the likes of TNT to franchise out Delivery offices complete with employees to provide the "on the street" force that our competitors currently lack.

[evilc]

The question is in the title.

My feeling is that if C&L win this the union will be a thing of the past and more like a discussion group.

2 Posties on neighbouring frames will be on completely different pay rates and terms and conditions, and probably won't know each others first names.

Out of an office of 30 there will be 5 full timers expected to prep all the walks for the Sub Part timers on less than 20 hours (10 in total) and then complete a 4.5hr walk at a fixed rate with no OT. (I mean your paid a flat rate to do your duty no matter how long it takes). But if you finish before your contracted time of 5.00pm you have to come back into the office to get packets out.

The 15 part timers arrive at 11.00 have 1 hour to throw off their walks and 4hrs to complete it but they have no M/R built in as their working day is too short to get it in the contract.

The sub part-timers collect their bags actually on the delivery and have 4 hrs to complete again with no MR.

Also because of cheap DSA and the 10 D2Ds they have to do, the bag matrix has changed and the recommended maximum 1st bag is 22kgs. The high capacity electric trolleys were ordered 6 years ago but Royal Mail cant afford to get them for every walk as all mail is now DSA except for social mail.

Is this beyond the bounds of possibility.

I can envisage posties being self-employed or like milkies have franchised deliveries. That is if we lose this current dispute.

Or they may already be in discussion with the likes of TNT to franchise out Delivery offices complete with employees to provide the "on the street" force that our competitors currently lack.

Unfortunately that has probably crossed postcon's mind, but they certainly would not announce it in the current climate.

[IWW Fellow Worker]

Franchises were under consideration about 15 years ago and reading meters a bit further back than that in the days when more mail began to be advanced to first delivery and second deliveries were becoming lighter.
If we lose this, we'll have team working, one over two deliveries, possible Sunday working and as our Yorkshire brother has stated, it will be the end of the union as any sort of mechanism for defending our conditions and fighting for better ones.
Crozier and Leighton are only the public face of the age old grand plan of screwing the workers into the ground in the pursuit of profit, but it should be borne in mind that they are aided and abetted by everyone who begins work before their official time, uses their car as a mobile pouch box and those who cross picket lines, many of whom will be out of the door without a second thought from the dynamic duo and their kind. If every cloud does have a silver lining, plenty of screws will also be looking for alternative employment and I wouldn't fancy their chances of being offered a management job in any business where managers have to know how to deal with people and have to get by on their own initiative instead of sucking up to people.