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Second Class Saturdays

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dudek05
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Second Class Saturdays

Post by dudek05 »

Following the recent Ofcom approval of no requirement to deliver 2nd class on Saturdays have any non pilot offices changed Saturday deliveries to reflect this. Reason I ask is we only get post once or twice a week but have had 2nd class on a couple of Saturdays without any accompanying first class or parcels after the Ofcom decision.
kazardaimenu
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Re: Second Class Saturdays

Post by kazardaimenu »

We’ve had no change to this effect but happy to trial it.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Second Class Saturdays

Post by SpacePhoenix »

AFAIK parcels don't currently feed into the DTS data, I'd imagine that eventually RM will have it feed into the DTS data. SDs don't either, I'd imagine that long term RM will switch them over to using 2D barcodes which would enable them to feed into the DTS data.
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Re: Second Class Saturdays

Post by Mr Rush »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 20:46
AFAIK parcels don't currently feed into the DTS data, I'd imagine that eventually RM will have it feed into the DTS data.
As D2D are to letters, so letters will be to packets. Warm-caling all the way down!
The machine stops.
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Re: Second Class Saturdays

Post by sindba »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 20:46
AFAIK parcels don't currently feed into the DTS data, I'd imagine that eventually RM will have it feed into the DTS data. SDs don't either, I'd imagine that long term RM will switch them over to using 2D barcodes which would enable them to feed into the DTS data.
Doesn't matter what you send to the DO. If its not 1st, tracked, special, it won't get delivered on a Sat.
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Re: Second Class Saturdays

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sindba wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 18:49
SpacePhoenix wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 20:46
AFAIK parcels don't currently feed into the DTS data, I'd imagine that eventually RM will have it feed into the DTS data. SDs don't either, I'd imagine that long term RM will switch them over to using 2D barcodes which would enable them to feed into the DTS data.
Doesn't matter what you send to the DO. If its not 1st, tracked, special, it won't get delivered on a Sat.
Someone said in another thread that you'll still be delivering 2C where there's a 1C item. Why won't the 2C be delivered if a DP has got a packet, Tracked or an SD?
SMS1969
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Re: Second Class Saturdays

Post by SMS1969 »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 19:34
sindba wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 18:49
SpacePhoenix wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 20:46
AFAIK parcels don't currently feed into the DTS data, I'd imagine that eventually RM will have it feed into the DTS data. SDs don't either, I'd imagine that long term RM will switch them over to using 2D barcodes which would enable them to feed into the DTS data.
Doesn't matter what you send to the DO. If its not 1st, tracked, special, it won't get delivered on a Sat.
Someone said in another thread that you'll still be delivering 2C where there's a 1C item. Why won't the 2C be delivered if a DP has got a packet, Tracked or an SD?
Correct, they’ll want all ‘ consequential’ mail to be delivered to the address.
sindba
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Re: Second Class Saturdays

Post by sindba »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 19:34
sindba wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 18:49
SpacePhoenix wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 20:46
AFAIK parcels don't currently feed into the DTS data, I'd imagine that eventually RM will have it feed into the DTS data. SDs don't either, I'd imagine that long term RM will switch them over to using 2D barcodes which would enable them to feed into the DTS data.
Doesn't matter what you send to the DO. If its not 1st, tracked, special, it won't get delivered on a Sat.
Someone said in another thread that you'll still be delivering 2C where there's a 1C item. Why won't the 2C be delivered if a DP has got a packet, Tracked or an SD?
Takes extra indoor time to sort it.
A2B
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Re: Second Class Saturdays

Post by A2B »

sindba wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 19:45
SpacePhoenix wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 19:34
sindba wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 18:49
SpacePhoenix wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 20:46
AFAIK parcels don't currently feed into the DTS data, I'd imagine that eventually RM will have it feed into the DTS data. SDs don't either, I'd imagine that long term RM will switch them over to using 2D barcodes which would enable them to feed into the DTS data.
Doesn't matter what you send to the DO. If its not 1st, tracked, special, it won't get delivered on a Sat.
Someone said in another thread that you'll still be delivering 2C where there's a 1C item. Why won't the 2C be delivered if a DP has got a packet, Tracked or an SD?
Takes extra indoor time to sort it.
I really don't understand when a duty is prepped but no mail is being delivered that management don't insist you take the mail where you are delivering parcels, takes an extra 5/10mins at most
Patmanposts
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Re: Second Class Saturdays

Post by Patmanposts »

A2B wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 20:01
sindba wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 19:45
SpacePhoenix wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 19:34
sindba wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 18:49
SpacePhoenix wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 20:46
AFAIK parcels don't currently feed into the DTS data, I'd imagine that eventually RM will have it feed into the DTS data. SDs don't either, I'd imagine that long term RM will switch them over to using 2D barcodes which would enable them to feed into the DTS data.
Doesn't matter what you send to the DO. If its not 1st, tracked, special, it won't get delivered on a Sat.
Someone said in another thread that you'll still be delivering 2C where there's a 1C item. Why won't the 2C be delivered if a DP has got a packet, Tracked or an SD?
Takes extra indoor time to sort it.
I really don't understand when a duty is prepped but no mail is being delivered that management don't insist you take the mail where you are delivering parcels, takes an extra 5/10mins at most
5 to 10 mins at most? i find that v hard to believe unless maybe if you are on a permanently "do able" duty with moderate packets. I was a reserve on multiple duties (which takes time to be fluent on remembering where the addresses are on the frames).) and very recently all the frames have been changed to vertical. On average per day of around 80 tracked and 20 ish other packets…. trying to pair up all the mail with all the rest would take a lot more than 10 minutes in my scenario. Saying all that, my Do has gone beyond the point of being any type of efficient. Simply do not have any minutes to spare.
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Re: Second Class Saturdays

Post by TopperGas »

A2B wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 20:01
sindba wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 19:45
SpacePhoenix wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 19:34
sindba wrote:
29 Aug 2025, 18:49
SpacePhoenix wrote:
28 Aug 2025, 20:46
AFAIK parcels don't currently feed into the DTS data, I'd imagine that eventually RM will have it feed into the DTS data. SDs don't either, I'd imagine that long term RM will switch them over to using 2D barcodes which would enable them to feed into the DTS data.
Doesn't matter what you send to the DO. If its not 1st, tracked, special, it won't get delivered on a Sat.
Someone said in another thread that you'll still be delivering 2C where there's a 1C item. Why won't the 2C be delivered if a DP has got a packet, Tracked or an SD?
Takes extra indoor time to sort it.
I really don't understand when a duty is prepped but no mail is being delivered that management don't insist you take the mail where you are delivering parcels, takes an extra 5/10mins at most
I've delivered Tracked on 4 different duties over the last couple of days and each duty has averaged :cry 50.to.60 items, to check that many addresses for mail, then attach any mail to the Tracked for that address is going to take more than 5 to.10 it it's probably 20 to 30 mins per duty, plus what do the business really gain if the following day you are delivering more mail to the same address?
A2B
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Re: Second Class Saturdays

Post by A2B »

TopperGas wrote:
30 Aug 2025, 18:58


I've delivered Tracked on 4 different duties over the last couple of days and each duty has averaged :cry 50.to.60 items, to check that many addresses for mail, then attach any mail to the Tracked for that address is going to take more than 5 to.10 it it's probably 20 to 30 mins per duty, plus what do the business really gain if the following day you are delivering more mail to the same address?
Ok maybe not 10mins but not much longer, the person prepping the walk gets the parcels ready for whoever is taking them so "should" be quicker at matching the mail to the packets.

What do RM gain? A clearer frame which is easier to prep the following day/s which saves prep time