Nobody can realistically be a breadwinner as an OPG now

[clashcityrocker]

Are you calling me a racist ? That makes you an idiot.

I would rather be an idiot than an idiot and a racist.
You seem quite happy fulfilling the criteria for the last 2.

[Tman]

=LouBarlow post_id=1119213 time=1740434002 user_id=4141]

The country does cry out for them. Ignore your copy of the mail engage your brain and research birth rates for this country. They are at record low levels. We have managed to allow the wealthy to plunder this country to such a degree that working poor folks can’t afford to have children any more.

So, you claim that the country cries out for them, when in reality no country does?
All those young (mostly) males sitting around doing nothing of worth in parks from Sicily and Greece to Finland and Eire are our economic future?
Uneducated, untrained and all but unemployable, but our prosperity depends on them?

We have also managed to make it impossible for the kids actually being born here to get an education due to the crippling finances involved. So the population is getting older, we have no trained people coming in because immigration = bad and nobody capable of filling vital roles in society.

And if we have "more immigration" then kids will get a better education and more will be able to afford kids themselves?
The perfect example of Dunning Kruger with a large slice of Left Wing dogma thrown in.

[Tman]

mjd24 post_id=1119245 time=1740472742 user_id=6774]

Having an opinion or dealing in facts and figures rather than thoughts and feelings does not make someone biased.

Writing an article claiming that a few thousand minimum-waged immigrants picking fruit in Almeria contributes enough to the Spanish economy to out-weigh the costs of housing and feeding all the other illegals in Spain isn't factual or even logical.
It's nonsensical political propaganda of the first order.

[mjd24]

=LouBarlow post_id=1119213 time=1740434002 user_id=4141]

The country does cry out for them. Ignore your copy of the mail engage your brain and research birth rates for this country. They are at record low levels. We have managed to allow the wealthy to plunder this country to such a degree that working poor folks can’t afford to have children any more.

So, you claim that the country cries out for them, when in reality no country does?
All those young (mostly) males sitting around doing nothing of worth in parks from Sicily and Greece to Finland and Eire are our economic future?
Uneducated, untrained and all but unemployable, but our prosperity depends on them?

We have also managed to make it impossible for the kids actually being born here to get an education due to the crippling finances involved. So the population is getting older, we have no trained people coming in because immigration = bad and nobody capable of filling vital roles in society.

And if we have "more immigration" then kids will get a better education and more will be able to afford kids themselves?
The perfect example of Dunning Kruger with a large slice of Left Wing dogma thrown in.

Again ~ why do you focus on the relatively tiny proportion of immigrants who as you say “sit around in parks doing nothing”?

Please just ask yourself why?

And do you have an issue with the vast number of Ukrainians now here? I would guess you do not, as they are white.

[borders]

https://x.com/i/status/1888892648242418102

Just is case you are thinking ????

[mjd24]

https://x.com/i/status/1888892648242418102

Just is case you are thinking ????

There is so much of this type of stuff that shows Farage up for what he is ~ an absolute grifter and conman. But again, i get why so many have fallen under his spell, and i dont blame them. But i tell you what, once you open your eyes to what he is and the likes of Tice, Jenrick, Musk, Trump and all those clowns . . . you cant then fail to feel huge anger at the fact theyve been able to become so prominent.

[mjd24]

https://x.com/i/status/1888892648242418102

Just is case you are thinking ????

There is so much of this type of stuff that shows Farage up for what he is ~ an absolute grifter and conman. But again, i get why so many have fallen under his spell, and i dont blame them. But i tell you what, once you open your eyes to what he is and the likes of Tice, Jenrick, Musk, Trump and all those clowns . . . you cant then fail to feel huge anger at the fact theyve been able to become so prominent.

[thefox]

https://x.com/i/status/1888892648242418102

Just is case you are thinking ????

There is so much of this type of stuff that shows Farage up for what he is ~ an absolute grifter and conman. But again, i get why so many have fallen under his spell, and i dont blame them. But i tell you what, once you open your eyes to what he is and the likes of Tice, Jenrick, Musk, Trump and all those clowns . . . you cant then fail to feel huge anger at the fact theyve been able to become so prominent.

That's no way to talk about your future prime minister

[NWpostie]

Are you calling me a racist ? That makes you an idiot.

I would rather be an idiot than an idiot and a racist.
You seem quite happy fulfilling the criteria for the last 2.

Point to me where I referenced Race pal.

I don't need to point where you acted like an inverse bigot !

[mjd24]

Well said. All the "immigrants" coming to our shores, well at least the majority, are young fighting age males. They pay these people smugglers suming like 5 grand a pop to come over. Now let's think about this for a second. Is it safe to live amongst "refugees" in say Sangatte with 5 - 10 grand or whatnot? No it isn't, they would get their throats cut for the money, so it seems to me that someone (out communist and traiterous gov) is paying these people to invade the UK, well why? I would like to think those coming over are well meaning and hard workers etc, but come on, let's face it most are savages with no plans to assimilate and are members of the "reiligion of peace" (which is only a religion of peace until all bow to their moon god; Allah), they come over (not all,I know but just look at Rotherham for e.g) to rape and stab one another, we need to realise that diversity is not our strength and that their is NO enrichment. I mean come one poeple1, it comes out every year that the most popular male baby name in the UK is Mohammed. I won't even go to London for e.g which is closer to my neck of the woods than Birmingham, England's second city, the last time a few years ago, I ventured into London, I thought I was in Africa or Morocco!n You have places up North that want to change the road signs into Urdu or some other language I forget which, seriously when are we going to realise that our country has been raped. Well, I know damn well that the boys in WW1 and WW2 would not have risked and lost their lvies if they knew that the UK was to become some third world shittehole, rape and stabbings on a daily basis! And don't gimme that old shitte about immigration is neccessary, if whitey had more babies, then there wouldn't be an issue, also look up Barbara Lerner Spectre to unserstand the culprits behind the rape of Europe, the British Isles and NI Ireland and the ROI Ireland! Always the same people that love mass imiigration yet you need a DNA test to reside in that certain nation!

I mean where do we start with this disgusting and obnoxious rant. Not worth anyones time even trying to engage with such hateful nonsense. Just so depressing.

[clashcityrocker]

Fact we do NOT have enough houses,

Here is a fact for you:

The Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities (DLUHC) publishes data on homes classed as empty for Council Tax purposes. In October 2022, there were 676,304 recorded empty homes in England. This is a 3.6% increase on the previous year’s total.

[NWpostie]

Fact we do NOT have enough houses,

Here is a fact for you:

The Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities (DLUHC) publishes data on homes classed as empty for Council Tax purposes. In October 2022, there were 676,304 recorded empty homes in England. This is a 3.6% increase on the previous year’s total.

So explain to me why house price is rising and the population has rise by 3.7 million in the last 10 years, 676,304 houses doesn't cut it, not all of those homes are fit to live or the owner is not willing to sell.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... C105%2C000.

You need to build 1 m homes a year just to keep up with numbers not just migrants, resident families with adult children stuck at home unable to afford a flat or a house, those most at need without a home goes automatically to the top of the list which means migrants go straight to the top of the waiting list for housing

I'm glad you have agreed that I'm not being racist instead I was being factual increased number and not enough housing, which is my original point all along.

[LouBarlow]

Unskilled illegal immigrants contribute nothing to the country and this is after going through several safe countries to get here.

"Illegal" (nobody is illegal) immigrants account for a very small percentage of the overall immigration figures.
Or maybe you don't distinguish between refugees and immigrants?

The numbers of illegal immigrants is dwarfed by the numbers that come to study (and finance the universities).
Some stay and use their qualifications to get jobs. Others don't.
Then there are the large numbers of Ukrainians and people from Hong Kong who have been given safe have visas.

I sometimes wonder what country some people live in. The NHS is staffed by immigrants - from the doctors and nurses to the cleaning staff.

You say it is discredited to call out racism? Since when?
Calling a racist a racist has never been discredited in my eyes.

Are you calling me a racist ? That makes you an idiot.

Economic migrants illegally bypassing the visa process, it's not racist in any shape or form to say so, it's a,weak and lazy point.

It says everything about you.

I still come back to my original point, not enough housing to sustain the numbers, that's not a racist point isn't it ?

You have ignored my post from before. There aren’t enough houses because the new ones being built are being bought by overseas investors, not people coming over on a rubber dinghy. How does a rich person, buying an estate worth of houses, and renting them out at exorbitant prices, then sending the profits back home, benefit the UK?

90,000 empty homes in London alone. They are not for sale, they are owned for investment or to wash dirty oligarch money. Be angry at foreigners but don’t be distracted as to who your real enemy is. The rich ones. Including those overseas investors who now own the majority of our once nationalised industries who plead poverty, put up bills, destroy infrastructure and yet still manage to send dividends back out of the country. Wake up.

https://www.newsontheblock.com/news-opi ... g-boroughs

[Londonsburning]

Fact we do NOT have enough houses,

Here is a fact for you:

The Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities (DLUHC) publishes data on homes classed as empty for Council Tax purposes. In October 2022, there were 676,304 recorded empty homes in England. This is a 3.6% increase on the previous year’s total.

What is your solution to this problem then? Why not offer up some solutions from your apparent vast knowledge of the inner workings of UK culture from way up there in your Ivory tower

[Tman]

mjd24 post_id=1119256 time=1740477914 user_id=6774]


Again ~ why do you focus on the relatively tiny proportion of immigrants who as you say “sit around in parks doing nothing”?

Maybe because they're the ones filling up hostels and hotels across the EU and UK? Because they're the ones who cost the country money rather than contribute? Because they're the ones who are prey to unscrupulous "employers" using them for cash-in-hand jobs for less than minimum wage? Because they're the ones making (probably) every city in the UK and the EU look like a Third World shanty town?
That "tiny proportion" are the ones causing issues (real or imagined) across the whole of Europe. Phillipino nurses, West African doctors and healthcare workers and Polish factory workers etc etc aren't the issue. Unemployable and homeless young men are.

And do you have an issue with the vast number of Ukrainians now here? I would guess you do not, as they are white.

There it is. The good old standby of implication of skin-colour prejudice as a way of shutting down the argument.