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[Iva bigredbag]

It’s f***ing disgusting that those two overpaid lazy twats at the top of the CWU are in hiding/on an extended summer holiday whilst this continues to take out delivery offices and their staff one by one across the country.
It’s ODM in a slightly different name and no amount of their stupid propaganda will convince me otherwise.
We had it brought in 3 weeks ago and it’s absolutely insane the work we are not expected to do going forward. Leaving second class on one side saves some time no doubt but a lot of that time disappears with double mail on the other side. It will NEVER free up enough time for a postie to do another third of a delivery even on the longer shifts available in the pick of shitty options that Walsh served us up. Walsh and Ward should be front of the queue demonstrating how this can be done because it’s not f***ing possible by a human being, maybe an OpenAI android could do it in the future but not us.
I’m sure my post will be deleted from this board as I’ve probably went overboard criticising the waddling Demi gods that run the union but who cares anymore. Like many I’m now absolutely done with this ridiculous f***ing job and I’m determined to be out of here in the next 6-12
Months.We are payed nowhere near enough to deal with this crap. Complete s**t show.

You are 100% correct the CWU are Royal Mail lapdogs, it's why I left them years ago after one of a long line of surrender deals they agreed with Royal Mail. The only thing the CWU care about is the members subs and looking after themselves.

[notsure.com]

We go live on 17/08, we were informed of this today. Less than a week to sort out childcare for many of us. The office is already a shambles, so on Monday it'll be even worse. Is there a word for double shambles?

[Mr Rush]

Is there a word for double shambles?

Omnishambles?

The 17th is our live date too and everything is still up in the air. OPL was in the office this morning reportedly insisting the charge must proceed. Management asking people to work their days off next week... but what are our days off next week? What was the result of the attendance pattern vote? What duty am I on? Those who do know what the f**k is going on aren't blabbing to us.

I can only make my own personal observation, which is in agreement with the chatter on the shopfloor: it's a NO GO on Monday. I reckon the latest it could be forced through is mid October, so pressure will mount on the rep to sign off within the next two months.

[Davemac1978]

We go live on 17/08, we were informed of this today. Less than a week to sort out childcare for many of us. The office is already a shambles, so on Monday it'll be even worse. Is there a word for double shambles?

I don't think it's unreasonable to be asking for 28 days notice so that childcare can be sorted out. A week's notice on the other hand is totally unreasonable.

[notsure.com]

We go live on 17/08, we were informed of this today. Less than a week to sort out childcare for many of us. The office is already a shambles, so on Monday it'll be even worse. Is there a word for double shambles?

I don't think it's unreasonable to be asking for 28 days notice so that childcare can be sorted out. A week's notice on the other hand is totally unreasonable.

We were told we voted for it (Monday this week we voted on the shift pattern) and it’s being implemented a week later. Mental. I also get the feeling managers are being railroaded into it at our place but hey ho that’s what they get the big bucks for

[Davemac1978]

We were told we voted for it (Monday this week we voted on the shift pattern) and it’s being implemented a week later. Mental. I also get the feeling managers are being railroaded into it at our place but hey ho that’s what they get the big bucks for

I've been asking for several weeks from management and union how PT fit into this new system and constantly been told we'll know more next week. Still not had an answer, I'm not in the union so was not involved in any vote. Back in 2022 I had a shift change which I still have the paperwork for and it clearly states

"You're duty structure at this office will be charging to align with the duty structure in place. This is in line with Royal Mails pay and modernization agreement, which requires me to give you 28 days notice".

Rumour has it my office is changing shifts within a week or so, but I've been told absolutely nothing about it. Therefore if they were required to give me 28 days notice back in 2022 I see no reason why they don't now, so I'll be putting it to the test at the very least.

[smok3y666]

It’s f***ing disgusting that those two overpaid lazy twats at the top of the CWU are in hiding/on an extended summer holiday whilst this continues to take out delivery offices and their staff one by one across the country.
It’s ODM in a slightly different name and no amount of their stupid propaganda will convince me otherwise.
We had it brought in 3 weeks ago and it’s absolutely insane the work we are not expected to do going forward. Leaving second class on one side saves some time no doubt but a lot of that time disappears with double mail on the other side. It will NEVER free up enough time for a postie to do another third of a delivery even on the longer shifts available in the pick of shitty options that Walsh served us up. Walsh and Ward should be front of the queue demonstrating how this can be done because it’s not f***ing possible by a human being, maybe an OpenAI android could do it in the future but not us.
I’m sure my post will be deleted from this board as I’ve probably went overboard criticising the waddling Demi gods that run the union but who cares anymore. Like many I’m now absolutely done with this ridiculous f***ing job and I’m determined to be out of here in the next 6-12
Months.We are payed nowhere near enough to deal with this crap. Complete s**t show.

You are 100% correct the CWU are Royal Mail lapdogs, it's why I left them years ago after one of a long line of surrender deals they agreed with Royal Mail. The only thing the CWU care about is the members subs and looking after themselves.

Stop supporting them then. It's that easy. Enough peopple leave they'll take notice.

[Emohawk]

Why is DM26 so complicated to sort out? our rep has been and will be working solely on DM26 for months....

- Arrange duties into pods.

- Vote on working 2 in 5, 9 day fortnight etc...

- Re-pick.



What else is there to do?

Argue with the manager and the local area managers that there isn't enough staff and that the duties are to big?

[Rommagic]

576 now.

[clashcityrocker]

Argue with the manager and the local area managers that there isn't enough staff and that the duties are to big?

No offices will be understaffed. Most will be overstaffed until next year.
How can you argue that the duties are too big until you know exactly what your delivery span is going to be and what you will be expected to take on any given day?

You can argue for the sake of arguing but in my experience people stop listening to you.

[Mr Rush]

No offices will be understaffed.

I can confirm we're short of people after deployment. Still got agency, some of whom have been taken on as regular employees, and there's plenty of unknown faces abound from neighbouring offices. My day off was not covered.

There's a few on S/L I don't expect to come back knowing that DM26 has arrived. I can only see us getting more short-staffed from listening to the mood on the shopfloor - beyond just the usual moaning.

[clashcityrocker]

No offices will be understaffed.

I can confirm we're short of people after deployment.

Then it begs the question - why did you deploy?
What did the Regional Steering Group have to say on the matter.

[Mr Rush]

No offices will be understaffed.

I can confirm we're short of people after deployment.

Then it begs the question - why did you deploy?

Unfortunately I'm not privy to the facts. I've heard things but I'm not going to repeat anything unsubstantiated here lest I wind up with the union on my back in addition to management up to the level of the OPL.

I find it interesting that the attachment to the latest LTB says 67 have been temporarily made up from PT to FT in the whole of Scotland. We must represent a good dozen of that. If you started right before the pandemic you're in with a shot at permanent FT as there's hardly anyone left who started in the 2010s.

[Emohawk]

Argue with the manager and the local area managers that there isn't enough staff and that the duties are to big?

No offices will be understaffed. Most will be overstaffed until next year.
How can you argue that the duties are too big until you know exactly what your delivery span is going to be and what you will be expected to take on any given day?

You can argue for the sake of arguing but in my experience people stop listening to you.

I absolutely guarantee you my office will be understaffed. The only rounds that are completed currently are HCT and single rural duties. I have been told no extra vans or staff are expected, just agency and part timers moved up.to.full.time.