USO & takeover bid.

[jtshocka]

Reply to the drivel above , you sold evey decent employee up the Swan ee, prime example sick pay publish what you receive when you and your cronies go sick , how dare you defend your s**t agreement on this website , older workers that have given most of there lives to this company in all weather's end up with disabilities and get half of ill health retirement payment your a pile of dim witts defending a total SELL OUT publish cwu union negotiators ill health retirement term and conditions IF YOU DARE YOU SELL OUTS

[postmanpatscat2]

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[postmanpatscat2]

I do not patronise members. I regularly visit offices across the UK and talks to members and hold meetings with them.

Virtually everywhere I go our members are happy to discuss their concerns and we have sensible conversation.

Unlike on social media where individuals want to be rude and make accusations.

For the record the agreement was not by any way perfect but let’s be crystal clear if there was no agreement and we carried on striking we would have tipped the company into administration.

The Government would have protected the USO which is 14% of what is currently delivered and processed today. All the rest of the mail DSA, Parcels tracked and specials the government could not touch as they could not use state money to fund a private company or every parcel company would have run to the high court.

Truth was we would have lost 30 thousand jobs overnight at statuary redundancy pay and that would have been the start of the job losses not the end of it.

The truth is Royal Mail was not going to be signed of by the analysts as a going concern unless there was a business plan. That business plan was either the agreement with the benefits ie pay and which reduced the impact on start times or it was an imposed business plan.

Royal Mail had served notice on the planes so the question was did the union get an agreement which limited start times to a maximum of 60 minutes with a default of 90 minutes or did you have no agreement which meant everyone moved 3 hours later.

On new terms and conditions the union never agreed these they were imposed. Why Royal Mail wanted Sundays to be a normal working day and therefore all delivery staff would have to work a number of Sundays per week which was their original proposal. As soon as the union stopped this from happening Royal Mail imposed the new entrants contracts.

They did not want them to be in the union and they wanted to move the growth in parcels to the new entrants. The union’s position is that we will improve the new entrants contracts.

On sick leave , Royal Mail made it clear that sick leave was costing over 250 million per year and that they wanted to introduce SSP for a week after the second absence. They were considering giving 3 months notice and changing everyone’s contacts to introduce it.

Only a third of postmen and women have more than one absence. So we agreed to the after the SSP would only be 2 days after the second absence and if sick absence went below 5.5 percent for a six month period then it would come off the table for the next 6 months. 7 out of 12 ROD areas are now under 5.5%.

We also secured 7% pay for 23/24 and 2% for 24/25 and £500 lump sum. We also agreed for the £1038 escrow payment to be paid.

In addition to this under the Lord Faulkner review we got justice for 200 reps and members.

The members voted overwhelmingly in favour of the agreement.

It was by no means perfect but it was better than the alternative.

We are now in discussions to improve a range of issues including over the USO.

Aren't banks private?? When government bailed them out yes people complained but the decision was never reversed!

If royal mail was going to go under as you claim, the government would have bailed it out and due to a public outcry would have been re-nationalised, despite other letter/parcel companies moaning.

This was a golden opportunity missed by the cwu and people who didn't have the heart/balls to go all the way.

Now we are all left in a job not worth doing!!!!

[postmanpatscat2]

And why did the union not rub their 2 brain cells together and have us deliver leaflets telling the customers about our plight and what shady things the company were upto ruining the service the public were getting! During the industrial action. Would have got the public on our side. Why did the CWU not use it's resources from paying members to do something so obvious! Most postmen would have done this for free off/duty or on a strike day!

[Barnacle]

And why did the union not rub their 2 brain cells together and have us deliver leaflets telling the customers about our plight and what shady things the company were upto ruining the service the public were getting! During the industrial action. Would have got the public on our side. Why did the CWU not use it's resources from paying members to do something so obvious! Most postmen would have done this for free off/duty or on a strike day!

I would have!

That’s been the major issue all along - our customers haven’t a clue what RM are doing, why they have closed collection points, why several vans are doing what one van did??? Etc

[blacov]

@postmanpatscat2

You can't compare investments banks worth collectively billions of pounds to Royal Mail. You can't compare global banking institutions deeply rooted in world's economy to the postal service from United Kingdom, we are irrelevant on the bigger stage, yes if we were to fold some people would miss us, there would be an outcry but short lived. Government would only step in to protect the USO in some way and I very much doubt they would save our jobs, even if we were lucky to have most of us saved, the job would have changed anyway and it wouldn't be a good change.

I feel your pain and I agree with you that renationalising our postal services would be the right thing to do in fact Royal Mail should have never been privatised in the first place.