PDA UPDATE : Please use this thread for any PDA problems!

[Janet Brum]

Try using this insted on your phone, is much better than the route planning from the pda...

https://www.routexl.co.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Mr Rush]

Try using this insted on your phone, is much better than the route planning from the pda...

https://www.routexl.co.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Possible data protection issues? You're giving a third party information on your itinerary during working hours . They could, for example, deduce packet volumes which is the kind of information Royal Mail might want to keep a secret or divulge on their own terms (to whip up the share price).

[number one]

Try using this insted on your phone, is much better than the route planning from the pda...

https://www.routexl.co.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Possible data protection issues? You're giving a third party information on your itinerary during working hours . They could, for example, deduce packet volumes which is the kind of information Royal Mail might want to keep a secret or divulge on their own terms (to whip up the share price).

Surely this is a joke post

[yellowbelly]

Try using this insted on your phone, is much better than the route planning from the pda...

https://www.routexl.co.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Possible data protection issues? You're giving a third party information on your itinerary during working hours . They could, for example, deduce packet volumes which is the kind of information Royal Mail might want to keep a secret or divulge on their own terms (to whip up the share price).

Surely this is a joke post

I reckon so - do you have to tell the site that you're a RM postie if you use it? You could be working for any number
of courier/delivery services, the local prescription delivery service, Meals on Wheels, Community Nurse etc etc.

RM love to bang on in public about their parcel volumes, just wait till they get the TV crews in at Xmas to a depot that's straight out of the
Courier where everyone is smiling and 'We've got 20,000 extra staff in to sort the parcels and we're really great' (but no-one extra to deliver them).

[Biker Mouse]

On a related not re: antiquated thing Royal Mail still do...

Signing in and out with a pen and a piece of paper. We're not primary school children writing their names in pencil before we get taught to add up, take away etc.

For me it's counting the f***ing poll cards.

With all the technology available, I refuse to count them. Especially as 3p is less than the overtime I'd get for counting prepping and delivering them.

All of ours come bundled in 100’s. with a label on to confirm, I’ve counted a few to check and they’re correct. Addressed Party leaflets are the same. No need to count.

[Trail]

On a related not re: antiquated thing Royal Mail still do...

Signing in and out with a pen and a piece of paper. We're not primary school children writing their names in pencil before we get taught to add up, take away etc.

For me it's counting the f***ing poll cards.

With all the technology available, I refuse to count them. Especially as 3p is less than the overtime I'd get for counting prepping and delivering them.

All of ours come bundled in 100’s. with a label on to confirm, I’ve counted a few to check and they’re correct. Addressed Party leaflets are the same. No need to count.

Just multiply the amount of houses you deliver to by 3 and f**k counting poll cards.

[Seymour Buts]

The update seems to have done absolutely nothing bar make the pda much slower and less user friendly.

[SpacePhoenix]

On a related not re: antiquated thing Royal Mail still do...

Signing in and out with a pen and a piece of paper. We're not primary school children writing their names in pencil before we get taught to add up, take away etc.

For me it's counting the f***ing poll cards.

With all the technology available, I refuse to count them. Especially as 3p is less than the overtime I'd get for counting prepping and delivering them.

The machines will often end up grabbing a wad of them in the feed due to how flimsy they are so you wouldn't get an accurate count, even if manually fed into a CSS in walk sort mode. Youd just end up with them getting mixed up between walks

[norris9]

Why do we need to write out and leave 'Something for you' cards?

Why can't this all be done digitally with the PDA. We just scan the item, select 'no answer' and boom, that sends a text message or email to the person the item is addressed to asking them to go and collect their item from the collection point.

[SpacePhoenix]

Why do we need to write out and leave 'Something for you' cards?

Why can't this all be done digitally with the PDA. We just scan the item, select 'no answer' and boom, that sends a text message or email to the person the item is addressed to asking them to go and collect their item from the collection point.

There's probably many people who don't have access to a mobile phone and/or email

[norris9]

There's probably many people who don't have access to a mobile phone and/or email

When we are almost in year 2020? Mobile phones have been popular for almost 20 years. Email even longer. I am sure you can get a mobile phone for as little as £20.

If this is the only reason we still write out dockets then surely it's time to switch to digital and save us all the time of writing out these cards and wasting paper.

Do this as well as encourage people to install parcel bins and you've saved ~10 minutes per round per day.

[SpacePhoenix]

There's probably many people who don't have access to a mobile phone and/or email

When we are almost in year 2020? Mobile phones have been popular for almost 20 years. Email even longer. I am sure you can get a mobile phone for as little as £20.

If this is the only reason we still write out dockets then surely it's time to switch to digital and save us all the time of writing out these cards and wasting paper.

Do this as well as encourage people to install parcel bins and you've saved ~10 minutes per round per day.

How many people who have a mobile only have it for emergencies and don't check for text messages?

emails can get pushed down really quickly if someone receives many emails per day. How many people would think it's a potential scam email?

[NewPostieUK]

you've saved ~10 minutes per round per day.

And Royal mail will give us 20 mins per duty per day to make up for it.

[Interested-seeker]

It's been made even worse for LAT drivers and anyone else using the "Route Planning & Optimisation". The GPS signal drops constantly, literally every 2 or 3 minutes, and takes a good 30 to 60 seconds to gain signal back. I've missed my turning loads of times because of this, which is getting dangerous now because we're delivering during rush hour, and in the dark. Also, with the previous version, when you arrived at a stop, it would recognise you've arrived, and erase that stop from the route and show you the way to the next stop. It no longer does that, you have to manually erase the stop yourself. But you can't click on the current stop whilst you're at that stop, because your own GPS marker is in the way, so you have to drive a few yards away, stop the van, drag the map back to the stop, click on the stop, and manually erase. Both very frustrating things that slow us down even more.

Sounds like a nightmare

[Celgar]

On a related not re: antiquated thing Royal Mail still do...

Signing in and out with a pen and a piece of paper. We're not primary school children writing their names in pencil before we get taught to add up, take away etc.

For me it's counting the f***ing poll cards.

With all the technology available, I refuse to count them. Especially as 3p is less than the overtime I'd get for counting prepping and delivering them.

Your DOM should receive an email stating how many poll cards each walk has received. In addition if you have a weighing scales in your DO the poll cards can be weighed which is very accurate. I'm not sure if the election mailings can be weighed. I think in the past they have sometimes been banded into bundles of one hundred.